abodyjoe
Well-Known Member
cheap.. compared to the other two.
Maybe I've got $160k ..thanks for the laugh!!
Can afford or can't afford doesn't come into the equation of what a car sells for. I can see from many responses, Dan's especially, that they've never spent a dime at a body or restoration shop having body and paint done in the past 5 years with $1000/gallon paint. Scouring Craiglist and know values, give me a f'n break.... for what scams.
Restoring a car these days isn't for the faint at heart. I bent the door back on my Bird last October when the car dropped into reverse and pinned me to my pop machine. What started as a repair and paint blending on one side and trying to match the 36 year old paint turned into a $24,000 Cdn job with me doing almost 1/2 that work + parts. Then I couldn't live with the new to old difference, we pulled the car apart and stripped it to bare metal and did body and paint on the entire thing. Another $35,000 to the paint shop and I'm still bolting it back together right now. 60 grand... in the blink of an eye.
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2016 to 2019 I put $168K Cdn into my Bee that's been mine since 1979 and my Father's before me. All the restoration shop did was a LOT of metal replacement (the entire floor, rear frame rails and passenger front) and then body and paint on the bare shell. I gutted it prior to sending nothing but a shell to them. Darn near $10,000 was paint supplies alone for House of Kolor material. $6000 more was the stainless trim being sent out for polish and all door glass parts being rechromed at the same place that the Guild uses for all of their stuff. I rebuilt and or restored EVERY part on the car except the seats. I'd done them in '88 and were still mint. EVERY bolt on the car was touched. I'd be lucky to get a 1/3rd of that for the car IF I was ever to sell it. That'll be up to my Son if it happens, third generation behind the wheel..
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If I invested 100k in a complete restoration of a Volare, I'd be lucky if I could get 30k for it. There's a "cool" factor that is adding to the value of these auction level cars. And people want to pay those prices. Sure, let them, who cares, not my moneyExactly. People saying these cars aren’t worth what they’re selling for haven’t figured out that even the cars selling for $100k are selling for a loss after the restoration costs. Dusters are getting 6 figures because it costs that much for that level of restoration.
They claimed to have $250k+ into the resto on it. 1971 Plymouth Duster at Kissimmee 2024 as S50 - Mecum Auctions
If I invested 100k in a complete restoration of a Volare, I'd be lucky if I could get 30k for it. There's a "cool" factor that is adding to the value of these auction level cars. And people want to pay those prices. Sure, let them, who cares, not my money
Classic cars are the new antique market. Make hay while the sun is shining
Some folks are visionaries, some are fools. Pretty hard to tell the difference sometimes until a few years down the road. If you make money, you’re a visionary, if you lose your a fool.
It‘s what I call situational intelligence, how the situation turns out determines how intelligent you look…..
Sold my duster cause' I stop racing and it sat for 5 years sold it to someone who really wanted it and I got just about what I wanted for it..now for whining about being priced out,I certainly wasn't talking about me I can buy just about anything I want,was refering to the guys that don't have a lot of money to spend on cars and the guys who are paying wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more then these things are worth!!
Lol people always have opinions about collecting. Monet collectors talk trash about Picasso collectors. Ferrari collectors talk this same way about A body collectors. This is all a matter of perspective.So, you're on a website for a car you don't own any more complaining about being priced out of a hobby you don't participate in and could afford if you wanted, in solidarity with people that can't afford it? Sure, ok. Maybe you should get a new hobby.
pfft!Objectively, at the end of the day an old Mopar which was built by drunks on an assembly line 50 years ago isn't materially the same as a hand built Ferrari.
That one wasNo duster is worth that
I don’t think someone has to currently own a car to be an enthusiast. I no longer own an Imperial but I still post on Forcbodiesonly . And I have many owners of cars that don’t know much about them .Well obviously it was worth it to the guy that bought it.
Get a car, and then members might take you a little more serious. Until then you are just an internet troll.
Do a search on the guys posts. He's been trolling the site on buying a car for months and months. His shtick is getting old, and many members will agree with me.I don’t think someone has to currently own a car to be an enthusiast. I no longer own an Imperial but I still post on Forcbodiesonly . And I have many owners of cars that don’t know much about them .
Lol people always have opinions about collecting. Monet collectors talk trash about Picasso collectors. Ferrari collectors talk this same way about A body collectors. This is all a matter of perspective.
Objectively, at the end of the day an old Mopar which was built by drunks on an assembly line 50 years ago isn't materially the same as a hand built Ferrari.
Who cares what other people spend their money on? I don't give a **** if someone can or can't afford something. I see both sides of this argument being incredibly insecure; the people who can't afford it are being weird about the price because they're broke and the people who can afford it are being weird and desperately trying to justify where their money went.
WHO CARES, GROW UP