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Reading about bit coin. Now, I am not a stupid guy, I can make or fix most anything. I have a Bachelors in business, BUT, I do not see how Bit /coin has value. Just because it is hard to mine? Really????
Bitcoin in all actuality is just like any other fiat currency. It only has value because enough people have agreed it has value. This could be done with anything including Monopoly money. Fiat currencies are not backed by anything like gold or silver or whatever other physical currencies throughout history.

So a good example of this would be the dollar. Yes, the dollar is a fiat currency. It holds value because enough people recognize it to have such value. It is not actually “money” in the sense of anything valuable. It’s just numbers printed on paper.
Now take Venezuela for example, a HUGE part of their socio-economic troubles come from the fact that barely anyone outside of that country will take their currency. So their currency is pretty much worthless. Now there’s deeper and more complex reasons for this but you get the general idea.

so how does this relate to bitcoin? Well, you have half the story already. Yes, it started as a data mine to harness unused RAM to solve complex math equations that even super computers couldn’t solve on their own. Aka mining.

Because this used your computer and your electricity, the developer paid you in a form of digital coin, a bit coin. That could later be exchanged between people in what was essentially a barter economy around the world, with no regard to currency exchange rates or government intervention. This is also why the EU tried unsuccessfully to shut Bitcoin down.

now here’s where things get interesting. Bitcoin and it’s location on the net, are only known to the holder. So if you have say 10 bitcoins, their location is nothing more than an algorithm containing an unique url to that location. You can even go a step farther and get vpn wallets and scramblers and really conceal your money’s location. This means that no hacker, no government and even yourself, should you lose that location or forget your password, can retrieve it. For example, there is a guy in Europe in jail simply because he refuses to tell the EU where his millions in bitcoins are located. Guy secretly installed mining software on hundreds of gov computers and mined thousands of bit coins in the early days.

now, the reason it is becoming so valuable is all the above combined. But think about it, it’s safer than a bank, it can’t be stolen. And as long as enough people feel it has value, it will continue to do so. Yes, it’ll spike up and down as people sell it back and forth but there’s becoming a trend in recent years, as the economic situations get worse, people run towards hedges, gold, silver and now Bitcoin and it’s sisters. Why? Because it’s almost become as easy as PayPaling someone money to buy and sell it. I think it will continue to climb in popularity. But with it being a finite amount, unlike the dollar or euro(which the government can literally create with a few key strokes), once all the Bitcoin is mined, that’s it, no more new Bitcoins. And as we see with classic cars, enough people want them and the price gets stupid high.

hope that helps @Mopar Tim
 
Bitcoin in all actuality is just like any other fiat currency. It only has value because enough people have agreed it has value. This could be done with anything including Monopoly money. Fiat currencies are not backed by anything like gold or silver or whatever other physical currencies throughout history.

So a good example of this would be the dollar. Yes, the dollar is a fiat currency. It holds value because enough people recognize it to have such value. It is not actually “money” in the sense of anything valuable. It’s just numbers printed on paper.
Now take Venezuela for example, a HUGE part of their socio-economic troubles come from the fact that barely anyone outside of that country will take their currency. So their currency is pretty much worthless. Now there’s deeper and more complex reasons for this but you get the general idea.

so how does this relate to bitcoin? Well, you have half the story already. Yes, it started as a data mine to harness unused RAM to solve complex math equations that even super computers couldn’t solve on their own. Aka mining.

Because this used your computer and your electricity, the developer paid you in a form of digital coin, a bit coin. That could later be exchanged between people in what was essentially a barter economy around the world, with no regard to currency exchange rates or government intervention. This is also why the EU tried unsuccessfully to shut Bitcoin down.

now here’s where things get interesting. Bitcoin and it’s location on the net, are only known to the holder. So if you have say 10 bitcoins, their location is nothing more than an algorithm containing an unique url to that location. You can even go a step farther and get vpn wallets and scramblers and really conceal your money’s location. This means that no hacker, no government and even yourself, should you lose that location or forget your password, can retrieve it. For example, there is a guy in Europe in jail simply because he refuses to tell the EU where his millions in bitcoins are located. Guy secretly installed mining software on hundreds of gov computers and mined thousands of bit coins in the early days.

now, the reason it is becoming so valuable is all the above combined. But think about it, it’s safer than a bank, it can’t be stolen. And as long as enough people feel it has value, it will continue to do so. Yes, it’ll spike up and down as people sell it back and forth but there’s becoming a trend in recent years, as the economic situations get worse, people run towards hedges, gold, silver and now Bitcoin and it’s sisters. Why? Because it’s almost become as easy as PayPaling someone money to buy and sell it. I think it will continue to climb in popularity. But with it being a finite amount, unlike the dollar or euro(which the government can literally create with a few key strokes), once all the Bitcoin is mined, that’s it, no more new Bitcoins. And as we see with classic cars, enough people want them and the price gets stupid high.

hope that helps @Mopar Tim
I know people here are accepting Bitcoin for high dollar real estate...In the millions...
 
I know people here are accepting Bitcoin for high dollar real estate...In the millions...
Yep. Tesla will now allow you to buy one of their cars using nothing but Bitcoin. That is honestly what started the latest spike.

I’ve been following it for about 10 years, but I keep shying away from buying in cause it’s risky as hell.
 
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Straight pipes! All flanged up!
 
Howdy all.
Back in Mexico. Trying to get back into a normal routine for the next 5-6 weeks, depending on if things go right or close to right.
 
So why are you moving out of the US? If I may ask, you don’t have to answer if you feel that’s too personal
Well originally it was going to be the sailboat in the Caribbean, then potentially further. But knowing we may run into a potential problem we had a back up plan. That plan being Costa Rica. Of course we did and couldnt find a company to insure us newbie sailors. So we are going to continue on with our plan and go live life to the fullest. Im not on this planet to work, eat, sleep and repeat until the government says I can retire. We are here for much more than that and we are going to go find it.
 
Well originally it was going to be the sailboat in the Caribbean, then potentially further. But knowing we may run into a potential problem we had a back up plan. That plan being Costa Rica. Of course we did and couldnt find a company to insure us newbie sailors. So we are going to continue on with our plan and go live life to the fullest. Im not on this planet to work, eat, sleep and repeat until the government says I can retire. We are here for much more than that and we are going to go find it.
Good luck
 
Dragged in the fuel tank from the 97. Line right at the pump is rusty,and weak. I cracked it. So now i need to spend some time fixing so we can run truck. Think i have a plan to get it going. Hope we can fire it tomorrow.
 
Well originally it was going to be the sailboat in the Caribbean, then potentially further. But knowing we may run into a potential problem we had a back up plan. That plan being Costa Rica. Of course we did and couldnt find a company to insure us newbie sailors. So we are going to continue on with our plan and go live life to the fullest. Im not on this planet to work, eat, sleep and repeat until the government says I can retire. We are here for much more than that and we are going to go find it.
Sounds like an adventure
 
Yep. Tesla will now allow you to buy one of their cars using nothing but Bitcoin. That is honestly what started the latest spike.

I’ve been following it for about 10 years, but I keep shying away from buying in cause it’s risky as hell.
I built my shop and purchased my lift with Bitcoin. Of course it was in the early days. I think I cashed out at like 18. I made a rat killing and was very proud of myself until here lately. Wish I had hung onto some!
 
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Remember this guy from On Any Sunday?
I was pumping gas into this ordinary Ford van, just happened to look through the rear window and saw that HD with the big #1 number plate on it. :eek: OMG that's Mert Lawill :eek:. I had him sign 2 credit card invoices, one for his gas purchase and a voided blank one for me :lol:.
 
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