Because that's specifically what it's made for. To get into the lifters and help free them up. It does not work every single time, but it does a lot. It's a cheap try before having to tear into the engine.
Whats that noise coming from my 318?
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Because that's specifically what it's made for. To get into the lifters and help free them up. It does not work every single time, but it does a lot. It's a cheap try before having to tear into the engine.
67Dart273
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..........and a possibility. nuts, bolts, etc
GEO
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Either the marvel mystery oil and then a fresh oil change fix the lifter
or you pull the intake.
Remove the rocker arm assemblies ,the push rods and then the lifters.
Install new lifters with cam lube on the bottoms and reassemble the engine
Should take a couple of hours , you will need a set of lifters
cam lube and valve cover and intake gaskets.
And make sure you drain the coolant before pulling the intake
Hipo65
Yeah I'm "That Guy"
I to noticed the "milkshake oil" coming outta the rockers not cool. & while its running just take like a .010 feeler gauge under each rocker & find out what rocker is the offender. Sould s like valve train to me.
63VALIANT*KISS
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sounds like my old 318 when the motor blew I fifnaly found out my ticking sound broke off the top of the pushrod it was just laying on the head inside.
Snake
Mopar Nut
its the oil boys mike shake oil ,means tick central lol.
Josecuda
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Had the same issues with my 318; the ticking noise between cylinder 4 & 6 and the milkshake oil. After engine disassembly it turned out to be a spun cam bearing, a wipe out cam and two broken lifters. Not pretty at all. Good luck!
Chryslerkid
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I'll check the flex plate bolts just for good measure and ease....i am going to buy some of that marvel mystery oil and try that out. Hope for the best and go from there. I'll keep you guys posted. I pushed down on the rockers and none of them sounded or appeared to be out of sync or different from the others. I dont know exactly what i am looking for though in terms of knowing whats wrong with the rocker, lifters, pushrods ect. Even if i saw it lol
swinger340
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How long did it set? Sounds like a 318 I put in an 84 ram I used to own. Sounded good when pulled, sat for 6 mo. Before installing in the ram. Ticked like crazy. Added qt. Of marvel to crankcase let idle for an hr and tick went away. Changed oil and ran it for 3 yrs w no problems. Not that uncommon for a Mopar lifter to stick. I'd start w the easy stuff
Chryslerkid
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Cool just put in some marvel mystery oil. Let prey. Hmmmm bahhhh! Be back to let you guys know what happened. Thanks everyone!
Chryslerkid
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weebull
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Your welcome. Glad to help a fellow member. Don't be surprised if it comes and goes again. A couple hours work and a new set of lifters and you'll be good to go.
63VALIANT*KISS
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the mystery oil really works run it in both oil and gas for awhile and periodicly and it will stay away for awhile hopefully
swinger340
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Good deal. I was pretty sure that is all it was. I have had brand new lifters collapse driving long distance at high rpms because of low gears.
GEO
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Now make sure you use a good quality oil like Mobil-1 in it.
And change the oil when it turns from light brown to black regardless of the miles on it.
If it's black it's ready to come out
And change the oil when it turns from light brown to black regardless of the miles on it.
If it's black it's ready to come out
Chryslerkid
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Random question spin off of the current subject....if i end up replacing all the lifters, should i go ahead and replace the pushrods and camshaft at the same time, or does that matter at all?
GEO
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You could probably get away with just the lifters , and I would do all 16 of them.
Getting into the cam is a lot more work and I wouldn't do it if the cam lobes look ok , which you can see with the intake off
schwinger
1972 Dodge Dart Swinger
On the lifters it depends, assuming you have a flat tappet cam setup the lifters has to be broken into the camshaft, changing old lifters out and installing new ones on a flat tappet cam can ruin the new lifters and camshaft because they are not broken into each other. In a roller cam setup you can get away with that.
If it stays running fine, I wouldn't worry about it. They may not s"tick" again. It's possible the engine sat for a while and things gummed up a tad.
Just change that oil out now and run it for a bit. Make sure to use oil with zinc in it or an additive.
67Dart273
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I would not replace all lifters without going to a little hotter cam. One or two, maybe. Keep an eye on the oil for water / coolant, get it GOOD and warm to drive out condensation after changing oil and filter
GEO
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If you don't replace them all at once then you would be just guessing at which ones were bad and probably have to tear into it again.
Easier to replace the whole set at once
Chryslerkid
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is there a special tool too remove the lifters so that I don't damage the cam lobes or the engine during disassembly? i am referring to removing the lifters only. FYI this is purely for future reference for me in case i have to change them out sooner than later. Of course i am not going to rip apart the block if it is running well with no noises.
Oklacarcollecto
Life is an experiment
Magnet with a small head.
Inertia
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It also serves another purpose,,
If the noise hadn't gone away and the lifters needed removal,, you'll find the Mystery Oil has desolved most of the varnish build up at the bottom of the lifter,, making them easier to remove from the bore..
They often come out with just a magnet,, saving having to use the lifter "slide-hammer" removal tool..
hope it helps
67Dart273
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