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What's you block casting number

That the cover has no paint suggests it's not OE to that engine, or it was removed and cleaned at some point.
2465330-3, last digits hard to see behind the exhaust. I rebuilt it in the 90's when I thought everything should get hemi orange and left the cover bare aluminum

Block stamp:
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2466330-3, last digits hard to see behind the exhaust
And it's for a 65 model year.

Very interesting.


Ok I was wrong (again)



Now it looks like...

Blocks

64 and 65 273 casting number 2465330
blocks have the hole /boss

66 - 69 273 casting number 2806030
do not have the hole or boss

67 Cast number 256030 318 block does not have the hole or boss

70 up
Blocks do not have the hole or boss

Timing covers

I have 2 1965 cast timing covers, both have the extra hole.

My 70 up cover does not.




So now there are 4 la timing covers

64-68with the extra hole
69 no extra hole and cast in timing mark on the pass side
70 to 70 something no extra hole, cast in timing mark on the driver's side.
70 something no extra hole, cast in timing mark on the driver's side and externally installed crank seal

I have searched and searched and I can not find a cover WITHOUT a cast in timing mark AND no extra hole.

ALL the covers a have found without a cast in timing mark are cast in 65.
 
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What's you block casting number

That the cover has no paint suggests it's not OE to that engine, or it was removed and cleaned at some point.
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64-66 273 casting number. The -1 is the first revision so probably a 64.
 
It's a '64 block with V273 code stamped into it. It was just a weak stamp on the 2. Those early timing covers had the extra bolt hole to match the early blocks. It was decided that the extra bolt wasn't needed, so, it was deleted on the newer castings. The block casting numbers changed in '67 where they used both the casting number 2806030 and 273-? on the side of the block above the starter.
 
Well, I think I've got a few answers, but it also brings up a few other questions...
First, I think that's a poly 318 block wearing 273 heads. I'm not familiar with poly casting numbers, but I do know that the "A" engine (318 polysphere) used an extra bolt on the left side of the timing cover that is not present on any of the LA engines (273, 318, 340 or 360), all other bolts remained the same.
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LA:

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It looks to me like the timing cover rotted out and was replaced with a more readily available LA timing cover; and instead of just plugging the extra bolt hole with an allen screw, they notched the LA cover and ran a machine screw into the hole. Just a guess.
Another way to confirm this, but would require removal of the heads- or maybe just the intake, would be to check the pushrod reliefs in the block. A poly block has reliefs MUCH deeper than LA blocks.
Poly:
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LA:
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If the heads are off, you can easily measure the bore to confirm, too.
But this all begs the question, Why? Poly blocks are much more rigid, but heavier. And you'd have to swap out the poly pistons for LA 318 pistons, 'cause the poly slugs won't work with LA heads.
But it sure looks like an A engine block to me.
Methinks you need to find a Poly guy to decode those numbers.
No way it could be a poly block. They don't have freeze plugs in the front of the block.
 
First off what's this deal ? I've never seen this in all my years of moparing ? Screw holding the timing cover in place !
I don't see 273 cast in the side of the block and is this actually a 64 273 ?Thanks for any and all insite !

Small blocks had the extra hole and boss on the timing cover through 1967. I just checked my timing covers. When they updated the timing cover castings to the cast in passenger side timing marks in 68/69, the extra boss and hole went away on the timing cover. Not sure if the blocks had the extra hole, the blocks are harder to dig out than the timing covers.
 
Not sure if the blocks had the extra hole, the blocks are harder to dig out than the timing covers
I was able to do a close inspection of my 12/66 build 273 and it does not have the hole or the boss on the block

My casting number is 2806030

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I was able to do a close inspection of my 12/66 build 273 and it does not have the hole or the boss on the block

My casting number is 2806030

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I have timing covers cast in 64,65,66,67 with the extra boss and hole. As I said, I did not check the blocks. When was your timing cover cast? What casting number? What year was your block cast?
 

My 273 block is a 66 casting and it did not have that hole. I used a later 318 crank and timing cover, so the hole would have stuck out like a sore thumb, had it been there. I also looked at the video of where the block was on the CNC machine getting the lifter bores bushed, and the hole is not there. My block did have a factory solid cam and lifters in it when I got it.
 
I have timing covers cast in 64,65,66,67 with the extra boss and hole. As I said, I did not check the blocks. When was your timing cover cast? What casting number? What year was your block cast
The OEM cover is long gone due to a hole into the oil.

The one on now is a 70 up

The other 2 covers are both 65 castings, I did not note their part numbers both have the hole

My block is a 2806030 I don't know when it was cast but it was assembled 12/66, and another 68 318 block I had (photos) was a 2536030. Neither have the hole.
 
The OEM cover is long gone due to a hole into the oil.

The one on now is a 70 up

The other 2 covers are both 65 castings, I did not note their part numbers both have the hole

My block is a 2806030 I don't know when it was cast but it was assembled 12/66, and another 68 318 block I had (photos) was a 2536030. Neither have the hole.
Interesting. I figured the extra tapped hole in the block was gone by 68, but maybe 66 or 67.
 
On my '66's, all have the extra hole in the timing covers, but, no corresponding hole in the block, so, the hole in the timing cover is empty.
 
And it's for a 65 model year.

Very interesting.


Ok I was wrong (again)



Now it looks like...

Blocks

64 and 65 273 casting number 2465330
blocks have the hole /boss

66 - 69 273 casting number 2806030
do not have the hole or boss

67 Cast number 256030 318 block does not have the hole or boss

70 up
Blocks do not have the hole or boss

Timing covers

I have 2 1965 cast timing covers, both have the extra hole.

My 70 up cover does not.




So now there are 4 la timing covers

64-68with the extra hole
69 no extra hole and cast in timing mark on the pass side
70 to 70 something no extra hole, cast in timing mark on the driver's side.
70 something no extra hole, cast in timing mark on the driver's side and externally installed crank seal

I have searched and searched and I can not find a cover WITHOUT a cast in timing mark AND no extra hole.

ALL the covers a have found without a cast in timing mark are cast in 65.
I have a cover without the cast-in timing mark, and also without the extra hole. It's a Mopar replacement cover sold as one for the early engines with the bolt-on timing indicator. It uses the '78-up seal design too.
 
Did you get the answer you were looking for Al? We are running out of paper...LOL
Hey Jeff just reading all the new post added since last time I saw this. Learning and takin Notes . ( Not that I'll remember where I put the notes later !!!!)
 
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