This is why many businesses don't accept American Express. I think PayPal learned from them. Imagine having money taken from your account with absolutely no warning and having to go through a 90 day process to maybe get it back. If a customer doesn't like the color they picked...no problem. Charge back the whole $100,000 job. Scumbags use the 90 days to play with their money, or just buyers remorse.
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UDUST81
Well-Known Member
ive bought countless things that wouldnt work for my application.... i always just eat the costs as a lesson learned, unless its a brand new item i dont see the point in fighting over a couple bucks not worth the headache imo
yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
You are probably almost better off just taking a postal money order. They can counterfeit those but you can verify them easily.
This is a bad deal for you.
I have no idea why the dude thinks he gets his shipping back. I buy lots of stuff from FABO members and NEVER had an issue with ANY of them (if I knew how to leave positive feed back I would because every transaction has been perfect) and it makes me sick to see this happen.
I damn sure won't do business with this guy for sure.
Riddler
Project EH-Body
Here's a quick link. Leaving Feedback after buying or selling to another member
Your feedback might be the difference between me selling to someone.
Riddler
yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
we are all here to help each other and when we get someone that is dishonest it should put a mark on him. I'm not to smart in some things and if I buy something that I think should fit and it will not fit than it's my fault not the sellers I will live with my mistake. you did nothing wrong as far as I can see.
Dusterdenovo
Contentedly Old School
A couple of years ago when I was working on my dash, I found that the mounting ears on my Heater Control were broken off. I contacted Stephens Performance and spoke to Jackie. I told her what I needed, and also let her know that I was more than somewhat uncomfortable buying something sight unseen from a boneyard as I didn't want junk. Her exact words to me at the time were "it doesn't do either of us any good if she sent me junk".
When I got the piece they sent me I was more than disappointed to see that it had suffered some major heat damage - the lettering had turned brownish, and the hole the light socket went in was distorted and oblong. No way that thing was going in my car. I sent the attached pictures to them to show them what the problem was.
Ted Stephens response:
Junk?
I don't know what you expected. That control is as good as it will get on a used one. (The one I have was equally used)
The switch was checked for operation before it was shipped. (Actually barely moved)
The faceplate on your broken up one could be switched to improve the looks.
You can return it if you want.
There will be a 20% restock fee.
Call for a Return Authorization number.
Ed
I paid another $16.50 to ship it back and ate the 20% (of $159US). Rather than have a "Kotex blowout" over it, I just took my lumps and lost Stephens' phone number. Then I figured out how to repair the damage on my original unit and got on with life.
When I got the piece they sent me I was more than disappointed to see that it had suffered some major heat damage - the lettering had turned brownish, and the hole the light socket went in was distorted and oblong. No way that thing was going in my car. I sent the attached pictures to them to show them what the problem was.
Ted Stephens response:
Junk?
I don't know what you expected. That control is as good as it will get on a used one. (The one I have was equally used)
The switch was checked for operation before it was shipped. (Actually barely moved)
The faceplate on your broken up one could be switched to improve the looks.
You can return it if you want.
There will be a 20% restock fee.
Call for a Return Authorization number.
Ed
I paid another $16.50 to ship it back and ate the 20% (of $159US). Rather than have a "Kotex blowout" over it, I just took my lumps and lost Stephens' phone number. Then I figured out how to repair the damage on my original unit and got on with life.
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It took me some time before I trusted people on this web site. I see that most of you are good people and just would like to thank you all that have helped me. Would like to meet up with you all someday. and you that are dishonest yea would like to meet up with you too,
SLOPAR72
Well-Known Member
This is exactly why 70 percent of what I have saved since 1990 is getting recycled. I just make my money elsewhere.... Who needs the headache? I don't. I see all sides to this story but this is not alot of money and is worthy of a compromise.... I don't know the buyer and never will but don't come near me..... Ain't no time for that. Live and learn.
JW
JW
I think I would've accepted the $45 and resold the brackets to make up for it and been done. Everybody makes mistakes, in this case both parties did, so why does one guy come out scott free and the other takes all the crap? Bullsheet.
to whom do I write the check or you probably prefer cash. I didn't know this was a Chevy forum, because I'm use to spending a couple hundred on Mopar parts. I can't believe 2 grown men would battle over a measly 90 bucks on an open forum. Unbelievable !
Exactly how I see it. He is on my avoid list for sure.....and yes, I really have one. What a douchebag.
rustyswinger
Well-Known Member
Actually. I was that guy dartnut. The problem wasn't the support plate. the problem was the frame rails themselves were too narrow. They are wider on the 74. who knew?
you were great to deal with. you got me the right parts. shipped them to me.
If you remember. I paid shipping back to you on the wrong sized parts.
I know it was a lot of work for you ( was for me too)
I appreciate everything you did
peace
Riddler
Project EH-Body
Now I'm getting very frustrated! The buyer @awsig has shipped the brackets back to via UPS. Which if I was in the USA wouldn't be a big deal. However I'm in Canada, which means now I'll be paying even more.
$90USD for the brackets
13% taxes for import on $90 insured brackets
UPS broker fee which will be in the $40-75CDN range.
Plus god knows what else.
Here's the grand total thus far: $90USD which is $120CDN
$15.60CDN for taxes
$40-75 broker fee through UPS
Grand Total: $175-$210CDN. For a pair of bumper brackets.
Watch for some FS posts in the near future to cover this expense.
Riddler
$90USD for the brackets
13% taxes for import on $90 insured brackets
UPS broker fee which will be in the $40-75CDN range.
Plus god knows what else.
Here's the grand total thus far: $90USD which is $120CDN
$15.60CDN for taxes
$40-75 broker fee through UPS
Grand Total: $175-$210CDN. For a pair of bumper brackets.
Watch for some FS posts in the near future to cover this expense.
Riddler
mopar head
Well-Known Member
All by design... ^^^^^^^^^
In the future... a simple ? after the description should cover the sellers butt.
In the future... a simple ? after the description should cover the sellers butt.
Either a very uninformed buyer/seller, or a very vindictive move. Everybody that knows anything about shipping knows that you only send things to Canada, or any foreign country, by the USPS, due to the brokerage fees. Even tho he is close to me, and I have the parts he needs, I respectfully decline to offer them up.
Dartnut
Don't hate me because i'm beautiful
Thanks for your response, rustyswinger.
The bottom line is that we were both able to work through it and you got your parts, and i learned a valuable lesson.
The thing that bothers me the most was the delay caused by me in you getting the correct parts caused by my screw up.
Oh well, live and learn..........
ScampMike
Despicable Damn Yankee
Hey - anybody know where I can get a set of front bumper brackets cheap??? What ~ 
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Used auto parts,non taxable....just sayin.
Riddler
Project EH-Body
Not really... I work for Customs, there are cases where there are taxes and fee's.
Riddler
rustyswinger
Well-Known Member
The delay didnt hurt me. I always have a million other projects on the go with this formerly rusty swinger!
You are right, we worked through it and I hope both came out ok. My car is dang near ready, and heck the mechanic passed my inspection with flying colours.
The frame rails you got back from me, were pretty much prepped for install If I recall correctly. I hope you managed to use them or sell them. They were Beautiful!
All the best.
Dave
Duty free. I was reading about shipping used parts into canada. Dunno, maybe i’m mistaken.
Regardless of the end result,being un-cooperative is NOT the way to do business at any level. Buyer should be ashamed of himself. I dont know how he could look at himself in the mirror and think hes a good person. Probably hasnt shaved in a couple weeks.
Regardless of the end result,being un-cooperative is NOT the way to do business at any level. Buyer should be ashamed of himself. I dont know how he could look at himself in the mirror and think hes a good person. Probably hasnt shaved in a couple weeks.
Riddler
Project EH-Body
Duty Free yes, Taxes no. Ontario is 14% HST. Then there are UPS broker fee's. I'm going to do the leg work to self clear the load. Hopefully that saves me some coin so it's not a double loss.
I wish the buyer was willing to work with on this. However he wasn't and I'm sure this will cost him far worse in the future.
Riddler
yellow rose
Overnight Sensation
There are only two options.
The guy is a complete prick and he's giving you the dry high hard one.
He just doesn't have a clue and doesn't realize how bad he is boning you.
Either way it sucks and should have never come to this.
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