Distributor Vacuum pod to intake manifold interference issue

[4eighteener]

It's not pretty, but here was my fix to the problem

 

[MoparLeo]

Go back to post #25. Set engine to TDC.
Remove distributor.
Oil pump slot should point to number on intake manifold bolt
This info is from the Factory Service Manual. Do it correctly, not just make it work.

 

[Bewy]

Do it correctly? Numerous ways to do it, and all are correct.

 

[Bewy]

Just to add to the above: since Chrys never used HEI dists, there is no 'factory' correct position for a HEI in a Chrys engine.

 

[4spdragtop]

 

[Speedy Pedi]

Go back to post #25. Set engine to TDC.
Remove distributor.
Oil pump slot should point to number on intake manifold bolt
This info is from the Factory Service Manual. Do it correctly, not just make it work.

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yes engine was as I stated oil pump drive shaft was pointing toward the #1 intake bolt, dist. rotor pointed to #1 on cap and #1 piston @ TDC, when dist. was removed.

 

[Speedy Pedi]

Does the rotor and the drive slot in the distributor correspond?

The dist. shaft flat tip was pointing at #1 cylinder in block rotor was about 60* shifted and able to point to #1 cap tower in as assembled configuration.

 

[Speedy Pedi]

how about a 90 or 45 on the oil pressure sender

45* clockwise reindexing ign. wires on dist. causes the vac pod to hit oil pressure sending unit and unable to time up engine

 

[Speedy Pedi]

There are two parts of the dist that have to be in the right spot: the cap & the body. I am basing that on the pics provided.

It is all very well to claim this is a 3-5 min job, but if you are new to this it can be a bit daunting.....several ways of fixing the problem have been suggested & some are wrong & will not fix the problem..

I appreciate everyone's continued efforts to help, This has greater challenges for me as after my stroke it's much harder to do

 

[toolmanmike]

Happy Easter FABO family, I wanted to make sure I'm thinking about this correctly. I've got a kink in my vacuum line, and was wondering if I changed the position of the distributor drive gear by one tooth if that would remedy this interference. 2nd part of question is if I mark the rotor position vs distributer housing wouldn't I have my engine timing very close to correct on reassembly?

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It looks like there is plenty of room for the vacuum advance just behind the intake.

 

[Speedy Pedi]

The tall oil pressure sender won't allow the vacuum pod to move back enuff restricting timing adjustment to a few degrees.
The 90* vacuum end seems like the easy choice, - next is 90* fitting to position oil sender outta the way .
Best choice is get the small cap distributer version, jmo
Good luck

I'm not ruling out putting in a 45* or 90* if it's the only solution.

 

[Speedy Pedi]

That's just it. If he gets the distributor in the right spot, he won't have to do any of that.

I agree I'm hoping to get the dist. / pump drive in it's sweet spot if possible.

 

[Speedy Pedi]

You are certainly tight for room............

Here is another thing you can do & I have done this a few times.....
There is a slot in the dist body that locates the cap. You can file/make a new slot at 90*, 180* or 270*. Whichever position:
[1] locates the dist body where the VA unit can be accessed for adjustment
[2] locates the cap for clearance from other parts. You will need to lengthen the red, yw & black wires.

I like your thinking, of reindexing dist. cap, I'm 1st wanna exhaust the possibility of incrementing the pump drive gear which should have yielded a 20* change about less than 1/2 the rotation distance of the rotation cap tower to cap tower.

 

[mygasser]

surely the suggestion of a rubber 90 degree vacuum fitting on the advance can would've been the simplest solution? wasn't a kink in the vacuum hose the issue to start with?
neil.

 

[toolmanmike]

WOW, what are you guys thinking! I could have the damn thing fixed in 15 min. This isn't rocket science.

 

[RustyRatRod]

WOW, what are you guys thinking! I could have the damn thing fixed in 15 min. This isn't rocket science.

Indeed. Sometimes it's tough for those of us who've been doing this for so long to understand someone else might not have it come second nature. If I had a dollar for every distributor I've yanked and every engine I've timed up I'd have a NICE nest egg.

 

[toolmanmike]

Indeed. Sometimes it's tough for those of us who've been doing this for so long to understand someone else might not have it come second nature. If I had a dollar for every distributor I've yanked and every engine I've timed up I'd have a NICE nest egg.

Re-indexing the cap pushed me over the edge. Who cares how many degrees it is off. Put it where it works by twisting the distributor and rearranging the wires on the cap or pull the distributor and reposition the drive gear if you choose. Sorry, I'm preaching to the choir here. You would have fixed the issue and been cruising days ago.

 

[92b]

I like your thinking, of reindexing dist. cap, I'm 1st wanna exhaust the possibility of incrementing the pump drive gear which should have yielded a 20* change about less than 1/2 the rotation distance of the rotation cap tower to cap tower.

The 90 degree fitting on the vac can seems by far the easiest solution or am I missing something? Is there a reason this won't work for you?

 

[RustyRatRod]

Re-indexing the cap pushed me over the edge. Who cares how many degrees it is off. Put it where it works by twisting the distributor and rearranging the wires on the cap or pull the distributor and reposition the drive gear if you choose. Sorry, I'm preaching to the choir here. You would have fixed the issue and been cruising days ago.

Yes. I would! lol

 

[Speedy Pedi]

It looks like there is plenty of room for the vacuum advance just behind the intake.

The 90 degree fitting on the vac can seems by far the easiest solution or am I missing something? Is there a reason this won't work for you?

Might still do that I was just trying to see if a simple gear tooth change was gonna do the trick

 

[MobileCustoms]

You could always go total caveman style and pull the distributor, then smash the firewall in for clearance for the HEI module...

 

[toolmanmike]

You could always go total caveman style and pull the distributor, then smash the firewall in for clearance for the HEI module...

 

[mygasser]

Might still do that I was just trying to see if a simple gear tooth change was gonna do the trick

wouldn't leaving everything as it was and just fitting the 90 fitting have been simpler. you're overthinking it.
neil.

 

[Speedy Pedi]

I think we're good now engine timed up where I needed it. Thank you to everyone for their recommendations.

 

[340six]

You could always go total caveman style and pull the distributor, then smash the firewall in for clearance for the HEI module...

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