McCail's V.P.!

[FrostyGreen318]

Don't shut the thread down!!!

Anytime there can be good political debate it benefits us all. While I agree that this forum may not be the best place for this to happen, it certainly doesn't hurt for people to be exposed to it.

I know far too many people who who could care less about politics but still vote. Everyone should be better informed. A good example would be what I saw happen the last general election. An older women came in and tried to get the poll worker just to point out who the Democrat candidates were so she could vote for them. She didn't know who they were but that was OK.

I once got a coworker to register to vote because I told him he had no opinion unless he voted.

Carry on!!!

 

[grumpuscreature]

Ran across a pic of her from her college days. She seems like a normal, well adjusted, lady. Wonder how she wound up in politics?

 

[Small Block]

Grumps: In answer to your question i guess you could say we're just lucky. Maybe she got fed up with all the bull and decided to try and do her part and try and change it. There are some people that won't even vote and still want change. Wonder how they expect that to happen if they won't even vote. Thanks Fastback.

Grumps: Normal? Well adjusted? I don't even see a bong or empty beer can in that picture much less a rolled up $100 bill lying on a mirror. That's good.

 

[FISHBREATH]

I heard she got into politics because the city government of her hometown tried for a big tax-and-spend increase.

 

[2shelbys]

Step away from the computer, there 2shelbys... :hiding:

take a deep breath... go outside for a walk...

it's going to be OK...

I am just fine. Why don't you step away from the TV, step away from the moveon.org website, go get some books, do some independent research and thinking, and maybe you will be OK.

 

[2shelbys]

I heard she got into politics because the city government of her hometown tried for a big tax-and-spend increase.

That is pretty much what I heard. She seems great. Heck, any woman that shoots an AR-15 is Ok with me.

 

[2shelbys]

Don't shut the thread down!!!

Anytime there can be good political debate it benefits us all. While I agree that this forum may not be the best place for this to happen, it certainly doesn't hurt for people to be exposed to it.

I know far too many people who who could care less about politics but still vote. Everyone should be better informed. A good example would be what I saw happen the last general election. An older women came in and tried to get the poll worker just to point out who the Democrat candidates were so she could vote for them. She didn't know who they were but that was OK.

I once got a coworker to register to vote because I told him he had no opinion unless he voted.

Carry on!!!

That is eaxactly why the founding fathers did not believe in giving everyone the power to vote. Very few people know it but originally, only land owners could vote. The founders were terrified of what might happen if the un-informed masses could vote. As we can see by the democratic nominee, their fear was very well justified.

 

[Prine]

ok...I have something for you.

I know 09/11/01 was orchestrated AGAINST the American People by the Bush Administration.....

Here are my FIRM Standing points to support this:

There was NO TITANIUM Boeing 757 Aircraft Parts found at the scene of the Pentagon....
No Luggage.....
No Bodies........

The only released video footage of the impact on the west wall of the Pentagon shows a Vapor Trail and then and Explosion.....Vapor Trail + Explosion = Missle

The FBI confiscated all 35 PLUS Security Surveillance Videos from Hotels and Buildings in the vicinity that show the West Wall of the Pentagon Clearly and could have silenced any nay sayers once and for all and still to this day have not released any of them.

The WTC 1 & 2 were designed to withstand the Impact of commercial airliners. WTC Engineers have said on record that they should not have collapsed.

After cleaning up WTC Debris and they got to near ground level they found the Support Beams were Diagnoly Cut with Thermite Bands and found high concentration levels of Thermite there too.

President Bush sat there in the Florida Classroom listening to a book about "Goats" already notified of WTC 1 being struck......then when his advisor comes in and tells him of WTC 2......he sits there for another 15 minutes...WTF?

I am not going to continue with this crap, but if you believe that some Muslims out in some cave in Afghanistan could conjur up a plan of that magnitude and execute it flawlessly with no rehearsal, and that the Bush-Bin Laden family friendship has nothing to do with OWNING the American People,.......................I would tell you: YOU NEED TO WAKE UP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbgCttq8L_8

 

[68 Sedan]

Soooooo....I guess you're saying the government funneled all the people who were supposed to be on those planes, took them out in the country some where, shot them, and buried them in a secret mass grave?

With their luggage.....


Yeah. Makes sense to me

 

[autoxcuda]

Sweet. I love Motor Wheel Spyder rims!! My favorite vintage rim.

Looks like Todd had a 71-73 Mustang Grande. Those velour door panals and interior are soooo 80's

 

[68 Sedan]

That doesn't look like TODD to me...

 

[autoxcuda]

That doesn't look like TODD to me...

It's captioned as being Todd's car. Sarah in front of it obviously.

 

[FrostyGreen318]

Oh I can't just let this go without a reply. #-o

For those that believe that 9/11 was staged:

An acquaintance of mine was sitting in her car in traffic near the Pentagon and saw the plane hit. She called her husband on her cell phone to tell him what happened and was later interviewed on TV about what she witnessed.

Yes the World Trade Center Towers were designed to withstand the hit of a commercial jet airliner although a smaller one most likely a 707. The design engineers admitted that they had not factored in the effects of the jet fuel in the aircraft. In a nutshell, the subsequent explosion removed the insufficient fireproofing on the steel beams and the steel connections failed due to the heat of the fire. (The sprinkler lines were severed when the planes crashed through the structural core of the buildings)

At the time I lived about 10 miles from where Flight 93 crashed. Try to tell anyone around there or those responding to the crash site that this never really happened as portrayed.

What has happened to all of us that we are so cynical of our government that we look at everything as being a conspiracy?

If this was all staged by the Bush Administration, then I will apologize and be first in line with the pitch forks and torches!!

 

[Small Block]

Frosty: Thanks for clearing that up for us. Nothing better than an eye witness.
Prine: I want to wake up. Give me some links that i can research. Thanks

 

[6pk2goDemon]

Soooooo....I guess you're saying the government funneled all the people who were supposed to be on those planes, took them out in the country some where, shot them, and buried them in a secret mass grave?

With their luggage.....


Yeah. Makes sense to me

OMG....that is freakin' witty. :razz:

What a great picture. Thanks for posting that one. :thumrigh:

Oh I can't just let this go without a reply. #-o

For those that believe that 9/11 was staged:

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Great to see these myths dispelled. And very well put I must say......

 

[68 Sedan]

Well....it's either that, or all those people have been paid off and are part of the Witness Relocation Program......

and were asked to, and indeed DID leave their families behind

Like I said. Makes sense to me:-D

 

[Longgone]

I won`t discuss my political convictions here, but if McCain wins the presidency then subsequently "buys the farm", it`ll be President Baberham Lincoln. :headbang: Lol!

 

[Small Block]

Longone: I guess that went over my head. I'm sorta thick like that and will need some pictures i guess. Thanks

 

[Prine]

Here is good site for just that:
http://911exposed.org


Here's the Pentagon pictures and video that was released:
http://911exposed.org/PentVideo.htm

 

[daredevil]

Joe Horn for president. America could use some frontier justice.

 

[danthedewman1]

When people start to believe that 9/11 was planned by our govt. it makes you question alot of other judgements they might make in life.WOW..........

 

[68 Sedan]

All bunk. A bad cut and paste of logos that can be found on the internet. If I wanted to take the time, I could produce a website that looks as official, ,with testimony from eye witnesses stating that flying saucers have landed in West Texas. And the reasons for the landings is the collection of Mexicans crossing the border.

I have seen documentation that proves they are being taken to a distant planet, and are being used as coffee tables

 

[djwhog]

need more mopar chicks in Cars.. that is a much better thread.. None of us can do anything, so just work on our cars, and look at hot girls, well and the ladys can look at handsome huys for them too! Dont want to be one soded.

take care folks... :cheers:

 

[Longgone]

Longone: I guess that went over my head. I'm sorta thick like that and will need some pictures i guess. Thanks

It`s an allusion to the movie Waynes World. In one scene the characters Wayne and Garth are trying euphemistically to express the beauty of Waynes girl. "If she were president she would be BABE-r-ham Lincoln." I`m just trying to imagine Palin as president if something should happen to McCain......weird????

 

[2shelbys]

ok...I have something for you.

I know 09/11/01 was orchestrated AGAINST the American People by the Bush Administration.....

Here are my FIRM Standing points to support this:

There was NO TITANIUM Boeing 757 Aircraft Parts found at the scene of the Pentagon....
No Luggage.....
No Bodies........

I might agree with you on this if it wasn't for the scores of sites all over the web with plenty of photos of wreckage, luggage, aircraft tires, wheels, and landing gear struts inside and outside the Pentagon. Here are a few:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ppfinal.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

The only released video footage of the impact on the west wall of the Pentagon shows a Vapor Trail and then and Explosion.....Vapor Trail + Explosion = Missle

That CCTV system in the early video is not a standard video system. It takes a series of snapshots. This should have been obivous to you from the patrol car that cruises slowly by and is only caught in 2 frames. An aircraft travelling at several hundred miles an hour would obviously be capable of being missed between the frames. This became even more obvious when the second, more stable video was released after being used in the Moussaoui trial in 2006 which shows the plane entering the field of view just above the ground. I guess you also missed the photos of the highway light pole it knocked down and the damaged vehicles?

The FBI confiscated all 35 PLUS Security Surveillance Videos from Hotels and Buildings in the vicinity that show the West Wall of the Pentagon Clearly and could have silenced any nay sayers once and for all and still to this day have not released any of them.

The F.B.I. wanted any video that might have evidence of the event? OMG!!! Come on man. I guess you have not read the testimony of the scores of witnesses who saw the plane coming in and also saw aircraft debris raining down afterwards? Debris that was photographed.

The WTC 1 & 2 were designed to withstand the Impact of commercial airliners. WTC Engineers have said on record that they should not have collapsed.

And even more engineers have testified that they were not and could not be designed to withstand the intense heat that would result from a full load of burning fuel confined in a small internal area of the building. Heat more than intense enough to melt steel.

After cleaning up WTC Debris and they got to near ground level they found the Support Beams were Diagnoly Cut with Thermite Bands and found high concentration levels of Thermite there too.

Geez. They have one picture of a diagonal break in one beam just above ground level, not where the building collapse began and the claim of thermate, which is a combination of thermite and sulphur, not thermite, found there is a B.S. rumour. Haven't you ever seen a video of a building brought down by thermite? The explosions are OBVIOUS, not only visably, but by the massive sound and shock wave. Did you notice such an explosion in the videos of the towers coming down?

President Bush sat there in the Florida Classroom listening to a book about "Goats" already notified of WTC 1 being struck......then when his advisor comes in and tells him of WTC 2......he sits there for another 15 minutes...WTF?

What should he have done in a room full of civilians? Run out in a panic? His job is to wait for the information to come in and make decisions based on that information, not run right to the scene.

I am not going to continue with this crap, but if you believe that some Muslims out in some cave in Afghanistan could conjur up a plan of that magnitude and execute it flawlessly with no rehearsal, and that the Bush-Bin Laden family friendship has nothing to do with OWNING the American People,.......................I would tell you: YOU NEED TO WAKE UP.

My friend, you are the one that needs to wake up. Everything you posted here has been thoroughly debunked by numerous independent sources. Yes, a small group of very well educated and very well funded men could easily pull of such an operation. They were not mere "muslims in a cave". Also, the Bin Laden family has had tight relations with every U.S. administration for over 20 years.