My second 1965 Dodge Dart.

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    Went to the junk yard today, got a savable lockable fuel cap with one key. Hope it fits.

    Then I got a stock rim for the spare tire so I can switch out the rim I have. And, I got a roundback alternator, sadly with a dual pulley but that can perhaps be fixed. And last but not the least, I found a complete pcv valve from a slant six. So, that should fit.

    Bill
     
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    If the gas cap doesn’t fit Bill I have a locking one that came with my 65 Dart you can have. Dustin
     
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    Thank you. :) When it gets light outside I'll find out.

    Bill
     
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      Well, thank you for the offer for doing business, but I think I need more practice.

      Bill
       
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      Thank you. I have tried the cap, and it can be put in. But, the rubber seal is so hard that I can not push it far enough in so the locking tabs goes in and locks it. I have to find a new seal. At least I need to see if this is what is the issue.
      Do you have a picture of yours, pm me if you have.

      Bill
       
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      Today I invested in a sand blaster, the smallest from Harbor Freight, a helmet with glass and canvas do to my shoulders, aluminum oxide and a coverall. I got the rim sand blasted pretty good, but finally I could not see well anymore, and had to quit. It was getting late too and I was working outside. I wish I had a cabinet, but no space for it.

      The alternator I bought is from 1968, and remanufactured in 1991. It seems like a good candidate for my car, but I don't know the size of it, and it has to be overhauled. I also want to find a new pulley for it. Mine is a single pulley system, while this has a dual pulley. Will need a tool to remove the old pulley.
       
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      This what I found here.
       
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      I have sandblasted the rim, and not going to sandblast anymore. I did not get it completely clean, but have to use the angle grinder with a sander disc on it to clean some of it up. It looks decent, but I definitely need to use a primer made for some rust. It will still be nice, but not like new. Well, it was the rim I found and since it is going to be for the spare tire I don't think it will be any problem.

      So, this rim is for a 1964 station wagon. And in my interchange manual it says it is different from a 1965. Does anyone know what is supposed to be different ? Including a picture of the rim and the stamping.
      It is still a 13x4.5 inch rim.

      Could it be something with the offset ?

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      I have been outside checking with my stock rims on the car. They seem to be the same, and if there is any difference in the offset I would say it is not more than 1/8 of an inch. It looked the same to me.

      The rim was painted with this reddish / orange primer you can see in the picture, and then black. Then silver where the tire is, as you can see, and on the outside towards the road, it was light blue, same color as the car was. But, again, this rim was taken off a 1964 station wagon.

      Now I want to paint it the way it was painted in 1965. And, I have heard that moss green was the primer color. The rims I have are all black towards the road. Gloss black. But, they have all been repainted on the outside. Towards the brake drum there is little paint left, and some rust. So, if I wanted to do a cheap fix, I would have to use a rotating wire brush on the inside, and then spray primer and paint on. Which I should have done, it feels like kind of not right having them rusty on the inside. And nice outside.
       
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      Will 15 inch wiper blades fit the 1965 Dart ? Will the motor handle it ? Today it has 13 inch, and it is kind of a long bit up to the edge of the windshield.

      Bill
       
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      Has anybody tried with longer windshield wiper blades, like 15 inch ? I think 13 inch what is stock. Reason for asking is that I like to see better.
       
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      I’ve tried the 14” with no problem.
       
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      Well, now I have found out that the rim I got, is not identical to the rims on my car. I have gotten pics from Sweden, and after looking and looking and looking at the pics, finally I saw the difference. The four openings where the center meets the ring is small on the 1965, and bigger on the 1964. So, does anyone need a 1964 spare tire rim, but have a 1965 rim ? I am willing and interested in trading.
       
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      Ok, do you think 15 will go, like Trico Classic ? I guess they will be half an inch longer in both ends.
       
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      I think the 15” will work looking at my 65 with 13” there is room for an inch on each side.
       
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      Thank you, appreciate your help. Was a little worried if the increased length will overload the motor.

      Bill
       
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      So, this morning I went to O'Reilly's and got a set of Trico Classic 33-150 wiper blades. They are a little longer than the ones who were on the car, but they look very good. However, the wiper on the passenger side does not wipe in the middle. The arm does not have enough pressure to straighten the blade. So, how do I fix this ?

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      Yesterday a bit after I replaced the wiper blades the rain started pouring down, really bad. So, the dirt you can see on the car I expect to be gone now. But, I need to get going with testing the heater core. I have had a hose at one end, and sucking on the other end with my mouth while plugging the other copper tube, and I could not feel any leak. But, sometimes there is a crack that is sealed when cold, but when the hot water from the engine runs through, it opens up and you can smell that sort of sweet smell from the coolant inside the car. Well, if it is leaking it has to be fixed, because it is too cold in the winter to use the car with no heater. It will be fog on the inside of the windshield I need to get rid of.

      Will need a little more coolant maybe too to top it up.

      The reason for assuming it might be leaking is that why would they have disconnected the heater core and gotten rid of the hoses if it was intact. Well, I guess maybe if there is an air leak inside the heaterbox so hot air comes into the cabin, then it make sense to do it too. We'll see. Right now I need heat, and not cold. :)
       
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      Do yourself a favor, and shake those 13" wheels.
      Use them as a door stop, to hold the E-Zup down, or as a boat anchor. Get yourself a set of factory 14"x4.5" steel wheels or better yet a set of 14"x5.5" . Add a 205/70-14 or 215/70-14 and your rolling. :)

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        Opinion recorded.

        Bill
         
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        Today I had the pcv valve painted and ready. So, I took of the rubber cap on the carb, and mounted the pcv valve in the valve cover and hooked up the hose on the carburetor.. and the engine does not want to idle anymore. So, tomorrow the engine need to be readjusted I guess.

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        The right side wiper blade did not work well. It only wipe on the ends, while in the middle the rubber on the blade is not even close to the windshield. I suspected it was too little pressure and tried to take the arms off. No luck with that, they sit like it was cast in one piece. But, I discovered that the metal tab on the blade that is used to loosen the blade when taking it off was resting on the blade itself on the wiper blade on the right side of the car. It was a little opening on the blade on the left side of the car. I bent both arms and the blade is now quite a bit from the tab. The arm has no problems pushing the blade fully towards the glass in it's entire length now.

        The bottom picture shows the left side blade, with the tab almost resting on the blade itself. On the right side it was the same, except there the windshield is curved more so it became an opening between the rubber and the windshield.
        The upper picture shows the arm bent a bit and much more opening between the tab and blade.

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        Today it was very cold in the morning, just 29. The car was frozen, windows, roof, and the rest too.

        Around 2 pm I felt it was warm enough to go outside, but then it had started raining. Well, I waited for over an hour and the rain passed, and I hurried out and painted the recess in the dashboard a final coat, and the same with the defroster vents. I am ok with the result taking into account that the windshield is on and I had to use a brush. I got some kind of Suede Finish, and I like the color too. It is definately a color I will consider as an exterior paint for the car if I need to paint it again. Very nice color. Dark Turquoise.
         
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        Been a lot of rainy weather, and cold, so I am waiting for an opportunity to do something with the Dart.

        Just finished gluing speaker fabric I bought at Joann's on the speaker before I put the frame on top. On top of the frame I have already put a sealer around that I bought at Home Depot, and slicing in two. It was 3/4 inch wide, so that is why I sliced it in two.
        Just need to bolt the frame to the speaker, and then it is finished. Then it will only be the radio itself to fix. If it is not too complicated. I have found out I have to use the solder iron to open the radio. Will see if I can work that out, I mean if the solder iron gives enough heat to melt the solder.

        The spare tire rim, well, I have still not decided what to do about it, spray it with primer or find a correct one. So, it just sits there ready for primer. Will anyway have to wait until it is so warm and dry that I can spray the rim in the trailer.
         
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          Still quite wet outside. The engine was readjusted and runs fine when it is warm, but I did not adjust the choke. Will look into it later, at least it runs fairly ok on idle. Need to hook up the tachometer to set the right idle speed.

          When I took off the masking tape on the dash, some paint followed. So, I have to redo it. I am not too fond of doing a job twice. Well well, such is life. Sometimes setbacks comes.

          I got the radio opened, but I hate messing with it without any schematics. Been searching and looking for a service manual, and 3 days ago I found a complete manual for the Mopar model #223 that I have. It is supposed to have the schematics too. The radio is supposed to be a Bendix 56ML, so it was after I found that information that I was able to locate the service manual. It has been shipped, but not showed up yet. I hope that will make it easier to troubleshoot the radio.
          Somehow I think I need a 12 volt source too for the radio. I wonder if the lawn mower battery would be the way to go while working on it.

          Picture below shows the fabric mounted, and it is glued to the speaker, and then glued to the frame too, and 4 screws with lock nuts were used to prevent the frame from rattling.

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