Need help from the dog lovers, especially those in AZ...

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DroVal

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As some of you may know I am not a very active person here since I don't currently don't have a Mopar of my own. I mostly lurk and read up on what everyone else is doing. It's how I get my Mopar fix, lol. I have posted a few times asking for advice, but today I'm afraid I have to ask for help.

We have a few dog threads here and I have posted pics of my 2 girls on each of them I think. I have 2 Pitbull mix girls (think the other part may be lab or german shepherd, not sure which). I currently live with my family which includes my aunt and her Jack Russel Abbey. Abbey has always tried to rule the house and that was fine until my 2 girls got big enough to stand up to her. Now Hope (one of my dogs) has decided she is to be queen of the house.

Abbey was 5 years old when I brought my 2 8week old puppies home. And everything was good. She played with them, reprimanded them once in awhile when they got out of line, and acted motherly towards them. Everything was good while my dogs were smaller than her. As they got bigger Abbey grew more and grumpy with them.

Now my dogs are 2 years old and full grown. 2 months ago we had our first fight between Hope and Abbey. They were playing like always with a toy and something happened and they went at it. Luckily I was able to get them apart before any real damage was done. Abbey had a puncture on her cheek, but nothing serious. We have been careful with them ever since, not letting them get too roudy when playing and watching for signs of trouble. Things were looking good.

Tonight we had another fight. Hope was walking out of the hallway from my room and Abbey and my aunt were heading towards there room to go to bed. Something happened when the 2 dogs passed in the hallway and we had another fight. I thought this one was going to lead Abbey to the vet to get stitched back up (it seemed that bad), but luckily no damage was done.

We basically have 2 alpha females in the house and they have decided they will not coexist. I need to find a home for Hope. Unfortunately this house I live in belongs to my mom and her and my aunt have decided to live together til the end. If I could afford my own place I would just take my 2 girls and go, but I can't.

Hope will need to be the only dog in the house. She does not get along with strange dogs at all and I guess has only been tolerating the jack russel. Hope is great with her sister, but they have been together since birth. Hope also does not like cats.

That is the down side to Hope. The good is that she is an absolute sweetheart. She is energetic, loves to play, go for walks, and nap near her people. She gets along with kids (not sure about young kids/toddlers). My nephew was 7 when I brought them home (my sister and her kids were living here at the time) and she got along great with him, still does. In her youth she got a little rough with him once in awhile, but never aggressive.

She hops when she knows there is a treat coming her way and quite frankly she is just a character. Lounges on the couch during the day and likes to cuddle up on cold nights. I love her to death and hate that I have to part with her, but I don't see any other choice.

She is protective, but not overly protective. When a stranger enters my home she will bark a few times and let that person know to be careful, but always warms up quickly (a little longer with males, but does warm up to them). She remembers people well and no longer barks at my friends when they come to visit. She gives them love when they come over and enjoys every second of it that they give to her.

She is an indoor dog and house trained. She is still a bit inquisitive, but no longer chews on things that aren't hers.

I love this dog more than I can express and it will be a long time before I get over having to give her up, but I need to do it. She needs a home without the stress and drama that comes with another dog in the house, but I can't give it to her. I will not be putting ads on Craigslist or anything like that (I don't want her ending up in a bad home or situation where someone will take advantage of dislike towards other dogs) and I will not see her go to the pound. I will do what I have to keep her and the other dogs safe here until I can find her a good home.

I am going to be reaching out to rescue centers, but I also wanted to try this. If you have been considering a dog or know and trust someone that is looking, please consider Hope. She is an absolute joy and quite frankly my life. She deserves better than I can offer her.

I am in Arizona and can't afford to do any kind of shipping or travel out of state.

Thank you for your time, I know this has been a long post.
 

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What BEAUTIFUL dog... I could have three here via zoning laws but my female, Maxie, is trouble too.

I hope you can find the right home for her... What does she weigh, is she house trained, OK with kids?
 
As of her last vet visit, roughly 4 months ago she weighs 86lbs. She is current on all of her shots and in good health. She is good with kids, but I'm not sure about toddlers. She has been very good with my nephew who was 7 when I brought her home and 9 when they moved out. She is still great with him when he comes to visit. My friends have brought their kids to the house, the youngest was 5 at the time and Hope did great. She is house trained.

Thank you for the kind words. She gets lots of compliments from friends about what a cutie she is.
 
I'm currently looking into rescue shelters. If anyone has ever had to do this and can offer up some advice on finding a reputable/trustworthy shelter, please let me know.
 
Do you have a pic of her by herself I can post to FB? I have friends very nearby.... Some would even pay transportaion if needed or felt that this is the right dog for them.

I'm so, so sorry this is the situation you're in.. I can't even imagine giving up my Maxie and she has drawn blood from Merlin. 5 Gallon bucket of cold water does miracles during a dog fight....
 
She turned 2 on September 8th. It kills me to have to give her up, but I don't know what else to do. I'm afraid Hope will get her just right and we will end up with a dead Jack Russel one day.

Her is one of Hope in the grass by herself. Let me know if you want something different. And thank you for taking the time to try and help!
 

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Droval, I hate to sound like an ***. YOU need to be the Alpha and this dog chemistry will change. Put your emotions aside and be the leader and keep all your dogs.

You are in control, not the pups.
 
JR's are a pain in the buttinski but bro.... I don't want to post this unless you are 100% sure you want to let go of your girl.

Dogs fight, so do people. I bring out the 5 gallon bucket and all is well... for a while :) I think they both need to know you mean business and you ARE the boss.

She's fighting for you, it's a complement. Don't be mean, just stich your chest out (dogs know body langauge), treat them for doing right, turn your back when doing wrong and keep turning it away from them....they hate that. Use this information judidiously and they will all love you.

Peace Brother!
 
To be honest I don't want to give up on her, not at all. If I had it my way the Jack Russell never would have made it through the front door. Both time this has happened is when I'm in the other room.

Tonight it happened when my aunt was trying to take her and her dog to bed. She knows they don't get along and one will walk around to avoid the other (they both do it). Normally Abbey (the JK) wont go down the hallway if Hope is there, but my aunt urged her on. She should have waited til Hope was out of the way or picked up her little dog. This whole could have been avoided if she had acted differently. She babies this thing. I have told her from day one when I brought my two home that you can't one set of rule for one dog and another for the other 2. But she refuses to see it.
 

In the meantime..... ;)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QpBOBU37M"]Dog Day- Baha Men Who let the dogs out - YouTube[/ame]
 
When it is me alone with the 3 dogs, we are problem free. I even play with all 3 together outside with no problems. The Russel is a barker with OCD. My aunt will stick her head out the door and yell at her to be quiet, but gets no results. All I have to do is poke my head out and look at her and she shuts right up.

Maybe I jumped to quickly about having to separate them. Maybe this second fight will open my Aunts eyes and she will listen to me for once. I'll sit down and talk with them tomorrow and see where things go.

Thanks for the pep talk Ramcharger!
 
To be honest I don't want to give up on her, not at all. If I had it my way the Jack Russell never would have made it through the front door. Both time this has happened is when I'm in the other room.

Tonight it happened when my aunt was trying to take her and her dog to bed. She knows they don't get along and one will walk around to avoid the other (they both do it). Normally Abbey (the JK) wont go down the hallway if Hope is there, but my aunt urged her on. She should have waited til Hope was out of the way or picked up her little dog. This whole could have been avoided if she had acted differently. She babies this thing. I have told her from day one when I brought my two home that you can't one set of rule for one dog and another for the other 2. But she refuses to see it.

Wow.... not the dogs fault but the interaction at wich I am so unqualified to comment on. As you most likely know, consistency is the key.
 
When it is me alone with the 3 dogs, we are problem free. I even play with all 3 together outside with no problems. The Russel is a barker with OCD. My aunt will stick her head out the door and yell at her to be quiet, but gets no results. All I have to do is poke my head out and look at her and she shuts right up.

Maybe I jumped to quickly about having to separate them. Maybe this second fight will open my Aunts eyes and she will listen to me for once. I'll sit down and talk with them tomorrow and see where things go.

Thanks for the pep talk Ramcharger!



QUOTE=DroVal;1969772125]When it is me alone with the 3 dogs, we are problem free. I even play with all 3 together outside with no problems.[/QUOTE]

:cheers: you've just found you're answer in your reply. :) Time to talk to all involved at a peaceful, strategic time. Be cool my friend and don't give up.:cheers:
 
This is dedication, maybe showing your family, this might let them know how intrinscicaly imporatant our animals are to our lives and how they relect our feelings. There is no lying in a dogs eyes.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUeoAyphfKk"]ROTTWEILER....OUR MISSION - YouTube[/ame]
 
Loved that video.

I have been on the Dog Whisperer site looking for ideas on stuff I can do. Although I don't believe in everything he does, he does have some great insights with dogs.

One thing that I think will make a big difference is me getting off my butt. I have let my own situation get the best of me and have become lazy. I hardly see the outside world unless I absolutely have to. Time for me to get off my butt and let the girls enjoy some time outside of the confines of this house and the backyard. Starting with combined walks with all 3 dogs and my aunt. We provide a good home and they never want for anything, but I have let them down in other ways. 30 mins a day playtime in the back yard, when I fell good enough for it, isn't enough.

Like you said earlier this isn't the fault of the dogs, but the interaction.
 
Loved that video.

I have been on the Dog Whisperer site looking for ideas on stuff I can do. Although I don't believe in everything he does, he does have some great insights with dogs.

One thing that I think will make a big difference is me getting off my butt. I have let my own situation get the best of me and have become lazy. I hardly see the outside world unless I absolutely have to. Time for me to get off my butt and let the girls enjoy some time outside of the confines of this house and the backyard. Starting with combined walks with all 3 dogs and my aunt. We provide a good home and they never want for anything, but I have let them down in other ways. 30 mins a day playtime in the back yard, when I fell good enough for it, isn't enough.

Like you said earlier this isn't the fault of the dogs, but the interaction.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wp4O7v5320"]Kansas - Dust in the wind 1977 - YouTube[/ame]
 
Whoa as we would say in the west.... :)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8AP-kobAtg"]From The Beginning - YouTube[/ame]
 
Ok, time for me to try and get some sleep. Thank you for hanging out and talking with me on all of this Ramcharger.
 
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