Ha!
Just realized I had run the wire up through the wrong entry in the core support. The hole I came through is for the condenser line.
Another 69 example.
number of horns- '68 barracuda
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Ha!
Just realized I had run the wire up through the wrong entry in the core support. The hole I came through is for the condenser line.
Another 69 example.
Gerald, thnx! you nailed this. Sure enough there it is behind kick-panel as you pointed out it should be on '68. So....all is wired OK up to the the weird stuff at the horns.... Someone in distant past that replaced the front clip with a '67 saw an unused relay in the engine bay by the horns and felt need to take one of the two hot horn wires and attach one to the the relay and the other to the single horn on the '67 front end - then attach some unused black ground to the other terminal on the relay. All for nothing actually. Betting the old '68 clip had two horns and the green/red with two female connectors fed each of them. So when I mount my two new horns where they should go on a '68, all I need to do is use the two existing hot leads....and ditch the relay near the horns which BTW is actually using one of the horn bracket holes anyway. Thanks for your patience guys. Very happy not to be pulling steering wheel , etc. etc..
See the previous posts.
In paticular #25.
In paticular #25.
You may have already known this... The horn switch in the column simply provides a ground to close the relay wherever its located. Power to horns comes from the relay.Gerald, thnx! you nailed this. Sure enough there it is behind kick-panel as you pointed out it should be on '68. So....all is wired OK up to the the weird stuff at the horns.... Someone in distant past that replaced the front clip with a '67 saw an unused relay in the engine bay by the horns and felt need to take one of the two hot horn wires and attach one to the the relay and the other to the single horn on the '67 front end - then attach some unused black ground to the other terminal on the relay. All for nothing actually. Betting the old '68 clip had two horns and the green/red with two female connectors fed each of them. So when I mount my two new horns where they should go on a '68, all I need to do is use the two existing hot leads....and ditch the relay near the horns which BTW is actually using one of the horn bracket holes anyway. Thanks for your patience guys. Very happy not to be pulling steering wheel , etc. etc..
Looks like you will still have a extra wire coming from somewhere to do something with.
I'll add what I don't know... If someone asked, "How/where is pre 68 horn circuit fused?" I would have to pull out the wiring diagrams. It may not be fused, other than the main fusible link. I'll assume the horn relay inside the cabin is fed through the fuse box.
Mattax
Just the facts, ma'am
For '67 that is correct. Power for the relay to sound the horns comes direct from the alternator output stud - no fuse (other than the link).
That also might be how the trigger gets power, and like you wrote, the horn button grounds it.
Are those the same horns? The top one looks bigger/different. Probably just a photo thing.
They are different, but I think same overall diameter (guessing). The top horn has more “turns” making the tube longer. I assume this is the low tone and the bottom horn is high tone.
Interesting. Both horns should be the same brand and type. The notes are in the tuning.
67 for reference.
Seems the ground wiring from the horn button went through the engine harness and you can just see the proper location of the relay. Guess that is where that one different harness strap was used? I used it on my negative battery cable to tray to keep it away from things.
Seems the ground wiring from the horn button went through the engine harness and you can just see the proper location of the relay. Guess that is where that one different harness strap was used? I used it on my negative battery cable to tray to keep it away from things.
All three of my 68 Barracuda’s horns are like that. I can guarantee two of them are originals.
Interesting stuff. There's never a day goes by that I don't learn something or see something I haven't seen before.
Yep, me too.
It is so nice having my 8 miler for reference when working on the others.
It is so nice having my 8 miler for reference when working on the others.
One thing I learned early is all three years are different and if that matters to anyone, you have to do a lot of research! Finding original examples for reference is getting harder all the time! I am glad I found some and took lots of photos many years ago. None of that matters to the larger group but does to some.
Yep. I have countless hours of screen time research for specific details.
It’s a good day, Every day, when something new is learned! Live my life by that!
ordered a pair of original type horns - took out the useless relay and the old Delco-Remy horn, got kick panel and door sill plate back together. I see they make some reasonable repops of these sill plates - wondering if any one source is better than another. Mine aren't too bad, but good share of dings/scratches. Doubt they are original - salt ate the heck out of aluminum pieces parts..
nice sound with both new horns - loud together - close tolerance for top of upper horn and hood - lot of guestimating and tough time finally trusting it enough to slam the hood shut - no prob but it has to be damn close! maybe actual '67 horns are little different and sit lower.
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I see in some pics of others the bolts were installed either way. My first take was to go from outside in and just have the threads on the bracket hold horn in place but seems putting a nut on there would be good idea, or go other direction and have not on the outside/grill side- 'spose only one way is 'factory'. anyone got tips for adjustment on these for max output?
Rustyfish
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Here are the original 2 with what appears to be original wiring on my '66 Barracuda. PO incorrectly installed aftermarket steering wheel so they don't work at this point. Not sure they will.
Cuda Al
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Here is my 67, note the orientation of the two horns, one has the bracket on the left, the other on the right.
The spiral of the horns are different, should point down. These are the original horns and have not been apart.
Alan
The spiral of the horns are different, should point down. These are the original horns and have not been apart.
Alan
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