Request to create an EFI forum

[rmchrgr]

A dedicated EFI forum would only benefit the site. There is no downside.

No argument here.

 

[Cuda416]

A forum was added for 3d printing. This is arguably a more relevant topic. It's kind of a no brainer...

 

[rmchrgr]

A forum was added for 3d printing. This is arguably a more relevant topic. It's kind of a no brainer...

I agree.

Let’s be honest - 3D printing has very little if anything to do with performance and/or drivability. It’s a safe bet to say that putting your foot to the floor and having the engine and car do what it’s supposed to do is far more important and satisfying to car guys than making plastic trinkets.

Not sure what went into the decision to create that particular forum. It’s kind of a niche thing that’s closer to art than cars. It also requires specialized equipment that most people don’t own. I’ve been involved with it and learned that I prefer turning wrenches over arts and crafts.

 

[Turbo440Dart]

I agree.

Let’s be honest - 3D printing has very little if anything to do with performance and/or drivability. It’s a safe bet to say that putting your foot to the floor and having the engine and car do what it’s supposed to do is far more important and satisfying to car guys than making plastic trinkets.

Not sure what went into the decision to create that particular forum. It’s kind of a niche thing that’s closer to art than cars. It also requires specialized equipment that most people don’t own. I’ve been involved with it and learned that I prefer turning wrenches over arts and crafts.

You had me on your side till puppy kicking the 3D printing forum for no reason. Being able to make things that are no longer available or using some good ole fashioned innovation and making something new is equally as important as having a whole EFI forum. It’s just another part in the whole machine. With that all being said, I don’t 3D print, and at this point in my life I absolutely refuse to put EFI on something old. I voted yes, but don’t put down one group to try and get what you want.

 

[One Bullet Barney]

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I agree.

Let’s be honest - 3D printing has very little if anything to do with performance and/or drivability. It’s a safe bet to say that putting your foot to the floor and having the engine and car do what it’s supposed to do is far more important and satisfying to car guys than making plastic trinkets.

Not sure what went into the decision to create that particular forum. It’s kind of a niche thing that’s closer to art than cars. It also requires specialized equipment that most people don’t own. I’ve been involved with it and learned that I prefer turning wrenches over arts and crafts.

Interesting comment since I see you posted in the 3d thread and had parts made for your car.
Is it because things didn't turn out to your liking?

3D printing is the future of keeping our cars running . As fewer original parts are becoming available .
You may some day need parts for efi replacement.
I'm not knocking what you are requesting.
Just what is more important going faster, or not going at all due to lack of available replacement parts.
Both 3d and efi have a place here. Furthermore all 3d parts are not plastic. manufacturers of Efi parts may possibly have components that are 3d made.

 

[Cuda416]

I agree.

Let’s be honest - 3D printing has very little if anything to do with performance and/or drivability. It’s a safe bet to say that putting your foot to the floor and having the engine and car do what it’s supposed to do is far more important and satisfying to car guys than making plastic trinkets.

Not sure what went into the decision to create that particular forum. It’s kind of a niche thing that’s closer to art than cars. It also requires specialized equipment that most people don’t own. I’ve been involved with it and learned that I prefer turning wrenches over arts and crafts.

Yup, let's be honest, there are major companies making major parts for performance engines using 3d printing tech. Might be prototyping injection horns, or entire intake manifolds. They can also make shapes not possible using other methods so your point about 3d printing is not what I was going after.

I mentioned it simply as a comparison of what is useful now days in the performance space.

I also think a lot of what we put into cars, even porting heads, comes down to "art" so there is that.

 

[Cranky]

I agree.

Let’s be honest - 3D printing has very little if anything to do with performance and/or drivability. It’s a safe bet to say that putting your foot to the floor and having the engine and car do what it’s supposed to do is far more important and satisfying to car guys than making plastic trinkets.

Not sure what went into the decision to create that particular forum. It’s kind of a niche thing that’s closer to art than cars. It also requires specialized equipment that most people don’t own. I’ve been involved with it and learned that I prefer turning wrenches over arts and crafts.

Sorry, but imo, 3D printing is WAY more than arts and crafts.....and to say that is pretty crass....imo.

 

[One Bullet Barney]

Sorry, but imo, 3D printing is WAY more than arts and crafts.....and to say that is pretty crass....imo.

Agree, my son made this dash insert for my 64 Valiant it was his first attempt at it.
. I have a better pick with the left and right small turn arrows and high beam indicator have to dig it up. I went this way after the bulkhead issue and went volt Guage over amps rewired the car bumber to bumber.
GPS sped and mopar hood tack.

 

[rmchrgr]

Alright that did not go over well. I apologize if what I said upset some people. 3D printing and retrofit EFI probably do share some similarities. I can easily see Megasquirt DIY types in particular getting involved with 3D stuff.

In my mind converting to EFI is more accessible to most enthusiasts though because it’s a bolt-on deal and it provides visceral results that you feel in your right foot. Creating a static object does not feel like the same thing - I’ve done both. Each exercise can be rewarding accomplishments but at least for me, performance is more fun. For the most part one can not drag race 3D printed parts.

As far as the 3D forum itself goes, it’s been open since July and there are only a handful of original posts in it. To me that sort of proves the level of interest in that subject or at least the lack thereof. My gut says an EFI forum will eclipse that easily.

And now we return to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[One Bullet Barney]

Not upset. All good on this end.

 

[George Jets]

Alright that did not go over well. I apologize if what I said upset some people. 3D printing and retrofit EFI probably do share some similarities. I can easily see Megasquirt DIY types in particular getting involved with 3D stuff.

In my mind converting to EFI is more accessible to most enthusiasts though because it’s a bolt-on deal and it provides visceral results that you feel in your right foot. Creating a static object does not feel like the same thing - I’ve done both. Each exercise can be rewarding accomplishments but at least for me, performance is more fun. For the most part one can not drag race 3D printed parts.

As far as the 3D forum itself goes, it’s been open since July and there are only a handful of original posts in it. To me that sort of proves the level of interest in that subject or at least the lack thereof. My gut says an EFI forum will eclipse that easily.

And now we return to our regularly scheduled programming.

Don't forget that an EFI Forum (or any forum subject for that matter) takes constant input to hold veiwership, and to keep it from fading away.

A good run on a new subject is about 30 days, if you want it to stay strong for years it's going to take some work to keep it current, interesting and informative.


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[RustyRatRod]

Agree, my son made this dash insert for my 64 Valiant it was his first attempt at it.
. I have a better pick with the left and right small turn arrows and high beam indicator have to dig it up. I went this way after the bulkhead issue and went volt Guage over amps rewired the car bumber to bumber.
GPS sped and mopar hood tack.

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That's cool! I need me some pigs for my new train layout I'm fixin to start on. I was able to find some bulk cows, but nobody had pigs. I can find like 5 for 15 bucks, but I need about 30 so screw that. My local public library is gonna 3d print me some pigs on the cheap. The girl even found a file they already had in their computer. lol

 

[Cranky]

Alright that did not go over well. I apologize if what I said upset some people. 3D printing and retrofit EFI probably do share some similarities. I can easily see Megasquirt DIY types in particular getting involved with 3D stuff.

In my mind converting to EFI is more accessible to most enthusiasts though because it’s a bolt-on deal and it provides visceral results that you feel in your right foot. Creating a static object does not feel like the same thing - I’ve done both. Each exercise can be rewarding accomplishments but at least for me, performance is more fun. For the most part one can not drag race 3D printed parts.

As far as the 3D forum itself goes, it’s been open since July and there are only a handful of original posts in it. To me that sort of proves the level of interest in that subject or at least the lack thereof. My gut says an EFI forum will eclipse that easily.

And now we return to our regularly scheduled programming.

I'm not upset either lol.....that said, EFI has been around much longer than 3D printing has been but it seems to be catching on fairly quickly and becoming more affordable to the masses. Did a bit of reading about it when it spilled over into the automotive world. EFI....I'm not against it but I've always been able to get an old school car running on the side of the road with minimal parts and have read a LOT of posts over the years of the troubles with aftermarket EFI. Also read some posts about it shutting down while on the road and taking hours to find and fix the issue. Also have read where the aftermarket has made changes and for the better....

 

[Cuda416]

Alright that did not go over well. I apologize if what I said upset some people. 3D printing and retrofit EFI probably do share some similarities. I can easily see Megasquirt DIY types in particular getting involved with 3D stuff.

In my mind converting to EFI is more accessible to most enthusiasts though because it’s a bolt-on deal and it provides visceral results that you feel in your right foot. Creating a static object does not feel like the same thing - I’ve done both. Each exercise can be rewarding accomplishments but at least for me, performance is more fun. For the most part one can not drag race 3D printed parts.

As far as the 3D forum itself goes, it’s been open since July and there are only a handful of original posts in it. To me that sort of proves the level of interest in that subject or at least the lack thereof. My gut says an EFI forum will eclipse that easily.

And now we return to our regularly scheduled programming.

LOL, not upset, but to be that dismissive in order to make some fictious point was unwarranted.

Also, it's been proven again and again, that a carburetor results in more power than EFI in MANY cases, IF one knows how to tune a carb etc. It is also a real issue that EFI is NOT always plug and play, but often times plug and pray in that the person "tuning" it doesn't miss a setting and damage things, like, the engine..... It can and does happen.

So while they both have a learning curve, it's silly to say EFI is simple or more superior that carbs without also stating which nuance you're talking about.

At the end of the day, I'd like to see a forum with subtopics for EFI, but that's still niche around here and covered in way more detail on other forums with years of back info. So I can easily see the side of "Meh, but why" in response to creating it.

 

[matthon]

I've posted the issues I had with efi, resolutions, lessons learned, 17 times in various threads.

To the point where I'm searching for it later on so I don't have to remember it all and type it all out again.

And to see what I did as a refresh for my brain.

This is the biggest advantage of video recording stuff. I've re-watched my own videos multiple times to see what the heck I did, and why.

Centralized info is key.

 

[One Bullet Barney]

That's cool! I need me some pigs for my new train layout I'm fixin to start on. I was able to find some bulk cows, but nobody had pigs. I can find like 5 for 15 bucks, but I need about 30 so screw that. My local public library is gonna 3d print me some pigs on the cheap. The girl even found a file they already had in their vcomputer. lol

Two or four legged pigs. Asking for a friend.

 

[George Jets]

Lots of times when people search out things on Google, it will lead them here to our FABO site if we have been posting about their subjects of interest.

Search Engines > Google have "Crawlers" that go through the web and search out and categorize posted topics and make them available so people can find them... based on their popularity.


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[Cranky]

Two or four legged pigs. Asking for a friend.

 

[Cranky]

Lots of times when people search out things on Google, it will lead them here to our FABO site if we have been posting about their subjects of interest.

Search Engines > Google have "Crawlers" that go through the web and search out and categorize posted topics and make them available so people can find them... based on their popularity.


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Would 'bots' be the same as crawlers?

 

[RustyRatRod]

Two or four legged pigs. Asking for a friend.

 

[joeychgo]

forum created

 

[MadScientistMat]

Thank you.

 

[RustyRatRod]

forum created

Thanks bossman! Moochas grassy ***!

 

[rmchrgr]

Thanks Joey!

 

[toolmanmike]

forum created

Thanks Joey and thanks for loading the threads onto the new forum as well.