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rule of thumb ac twisted pair carries longer, dc it is a no no at least on aircraft and also separate ac and dc by at least two inches.
I'm dealing with relatively short runs, so the voltage loss should not be any issue. My old phone line went up through the wall, attic, back down and across the basement. Almost back to where it started (probably 100 ft) before it got to the DSL modem. LOL. Even with all that I was more concerned about all the connections than the wire length. What I was reading was dealing with specific frequencies of DSL and Phone and noise interference.
 
I'm dealing with relatively short runs, so the voltage loss should not be any issue. My old phone line went up through the wall, attic, back down and across the basement. Almost back to where it started (probably 100 ft) before it got to the DSL modem. LOL. Even with all that I was more concerned about all the connections than the wire length. What I was reading was dealing with specific frequencies of DSL and Phone and noise interference.
That was done on purpose sometimes.- the wires were routed so they connect back to themselves. I forget what its called .
 
Halifaxhops: I just heard about this, new to me, invasive pest on the radio (you bet your garden) this morning. Bad for hops amo ngst other crops.
Spotted Lanternfly

Apparently it can be killed with some alcohol or smothered with a dormant or summer oil - at least on trees.
 
That was done on purpose sometimes.- the wires were routed so they connect back to themselves. I forget what its called .
No connecting back that I am aware of. Just the way it was routed originally and easiest place to tap into existing line when they added the line in basement.
 
I thought that was some other critter...
Heavy frost last night. Hope all the little buggers froze there buts off. LOL
That's what I would have thought - Emerald Ash Borer is the big killer of ash.
The only trees mentioned in that Ag bulletin for Spotted Latternfly are Willows and Tree of Heaven, but it does say its impacted logging industries as well - not sure if they mean here or Korea.
 
So, DSL...
How important is wire length? I will do cat 5e home run from the modem to NID. Is it going to make much diff if I do 15ft or 30ft?
DSL speed/function is 100 percent related to loop length. If near the end of the workable length, then 30 ft might make all the difference to working or not. From experience, about 80 percent of DSL outages, speed loss is in the home wiring. If you connect your modem at the NID, eliminate all inside wiring, run a speedtest there and compare to what you get in the house. Will give you a good idea how your IW, inside wiring, is affecting the service.
 
DSL speed/function is 100 percent related to loop length. If near the end of the workable length, then 30 ft might make all the difference to working or not. From experience, about 80 percent of DSL outages, speed loss is in the home wiring. If you connect your modem at the NID, eliminate all inside wiring, run a speedtest there and compare to what you get in the house. Will give you a good idea how your IW, inside wiring, is affecting the service.
Ok, Im planning to get cat 5, connectors and crimper, so can do some experimenting. The shortest run to a good mounting spot is 12-15ft
 
Just got done changing oil in the Buick. Now off to another project.
 
Too many things to do. Dont know where to start. Coffee. Then i will wander out, go pick up some parts.
 
Just got home from checking g my Sons . Water problem. Pressure switch not bad. Wired the well pump direct. No Go... He need a well pump ( artisan Well ).. I hope they don't hurt him too bad......
 
Ok, Im planning to get cat 5, connectors and crimper, so can do some experimenting. The shortest run to a good mounting spot is 12-15ft
Is the Drop, the wire from telco connection to your house, buried or Ariel? In any case it NEEDS to be twisted. Not a "flat" drop. That drop if not twisted is hundreds of feet of untwisted un shielded "Antenna" for RFI. There is a lot to know when dealing with ADSL, VDSL, services. And to answer @Mattax question about coax VS Twisted pair for Digital circuits. The battle has been raging ever since the phone company had the audacity to challenge the cable providers with High speed Internet. A digital circuit runs on the outside of the conductor. So a coax wire has more bandwidth potential. To combat this, DSL compresses the info. But when you compress DSL on a circuit providing either a Video, like Netflix, or audio, like Samsung music, it loses quality. So the slower the speed, the lower the quality. Now Telco DSL circuits are Fiber rich. Help with the distance issue. And yes the twist in the pair of wires combat RFI. To a point. Coax is more immune to this because it uses a shield that is grounded. But those circuits have there own issues...
O and those little DSL filter you put o your phone, It does block out the DSL sound from the phone, But it also prevent bounce back, or reflection. A HUGE issue with DSL.
 
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Is the Drop, the wire from telco connection to your house, buried or Ariel? In any case it NEEDS to be twisted. Not a "flat" drop. That drop if not twisted is hundreds of feet of untwisted un shielded "Antenna" for RFI. There is a lot to know when dealing with ADSL, VDSL, services. And to answer @Mattax question about coax VS Twisted pair for Digital circuits. The battle has been raging ever since the phone company had the audacity to challenge the cable providers with High speed Internet. A digital circuit runs on the outside of the conductor. So a coax wire has more bandwidth potential. To combat this, DSL compresses the info. But when you compress DSL on a circuit providing either a Video, like Netflix, or audio, like Samsung music, it loses quality. So the slower the speed, the lower the quality. Now Telco DSL circuits are Fiber rich. Help with the distance issue. And yes the twist in the pair of wires combat RFI. To a point. Coax is more immune to this because it uses a shield that is grounded. But those circuits have there own issues...
I THINK they are twisted. It's a black cable with blue white and orange white
 

Is the Drop, the wire from telco connection to your house, buried or Ariel? In any case it NEEDS to be twisted. Not a "flat" drop. That drop if not twisted is hundreds of feet of untwisted un shielded "Antenna" for RFI. There is a lot to know when dealing with ADSL, VDSL, services. And to answer @Mattax question about coax VS Twisted pair for Digital circuits. The battle has been raging ever since the phone company had the audacity to challenge the cable providers with High speed Internet. A digital circuit runs on the outside of the conductor. So a coax wire has more bandwidth potential. To combat this, DSL compresses the info. But when you compress DSL on a circuit providing either a Video, like Netflix, or audio, like Samsung music, it loses quality. So the slower the speed, the lower the quality. Now Telco DSL circuits are Fiber rich. Help with the distance issue. And yes the twist in the pair of wires combat RFI. To a point. Coax is more immune to this because it uses a shield that is grounded. But those circuits have there own issues...
O and those little DSL filter you put o your phone, It does block out the DSL sound from the phone, But it also prevent bounce back, or reflection. A HUGE issue with DSL.
And it is ariel
 
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