What is your fastest time to pull an engine, install another and drive it away?

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It has been awhile since I have done this.
Years back when I was short on cash, I'd swap in junkyard engines with no rebuilding done to them and have the car running in a day.
Back then, my cars were fun but not show quality. I didn't take the time to repaint engine bays, change anything or make upgrades except to swap engines. I've done several.
I had a 350 in a station wagon and a 305 in my Camaro. Both ran but the 305 was tired. I did a car for car swap and sold the wagon.
My brother had a Camaro with a dying 350, a buddy of his had a great 350 but his Camaro was a wreck. Nose to nose on the street, we swapped engines from car to car and the wrecked Camaro got junked.
I used to be able to do this in one day. This was with limited tools in less than ideal conditions.
Now I have plenty of tools and a roomy shop. I plan to do a 360 for 360 swap in a couple of weeks to this car:

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The car will eventually get painted but not right away. If I did have a plan to "do it right", I'd strip down the engine bay, weld up any and all unused holes and paint it the color that the car will be. For now, I just don't know what color that I want to paint it so I won't do anything but clean things up a bit.
This time I plan to drive it into the shop....

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.....Pull the running 360, install the rebuilt 360 and then drive it out.
The exhaust will stay in place. The transmission will stay in place. The 360 going in is a 9.5 to 1 roller 360 with #308 heads, 1.6 Hughes rocker arms, a mild roller cam, Air Gap intake....

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Those headers came from FABO member @MidnightSwinger. They were test fitted to see about oil filter access. They will go in later, not the day of the engine swap.
The engine coming out is a late 70s 360 from a junkyard. In 2000 or 2001, I helped a buddy of mine and his kid pull this engine, strip it down and after he had it cleaned and honed, we screwed it together with stock pistons. He built a better engine later and I bought this from him.

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It has about 8 to 1 compression, #308 heads, a MP 280/474 cam with a Weiand dual plane intake. The car runs pretty strong for being such a low compression mill.
I'm keeping the 8 to 1 360 for another car.
So what are your stories? Who has tales of their one day engine swaps? Maybe less than 6 hour swaps?
 
Back in the early 90's working at North Bay Ford in Santa Cruz Ford Explorers & Rangers were coming in with leaking rear main seals constantly.... Getting a late model engine out, resealing it & reinstalling it paid 9.2 hrs under warranty... Did enough of them I was getting the job done in about 6.5hrs... Then I had a day where everything went just right, got in to work early, started a fresh Exploder had the engine back in and running by noon, grabbed a second ticket, this time a Ranger, engine out, resealed & back in the truck by 5:30....
 
I had a 67 Chevelle meh I guess about 1987. It had a warmed up by me 327, powerglide and 4.88 gears. Although this was not an engine SWAP for another engine, a friend and I pulled the engine, replaced the rear main seal and resealed the oil pan in under two hours and drove away. That was a fun car.
 
Back in the early 90's working at North Bay Ford in Santa Cruz Ford Explorers & Rangers were coming in with leaking rear main seals constantly.... Getting a late model engine out, resealing it & reinstalling it paid 9.2 hrs under warranty... Did enough of them I was getting the job done in about 6.5hrs... Then I had a day where everything went just right, got in to work early, started a fresh Exploder had the engine back in and running by noon, grabbed a second ticket, this time a Ranger, engine out, resealed & back in the truck by 5:30....
Yep, that’s how techs make money ! We had a tech that could install A/C in half of flat rate time . He made bank !
 

The guys that worked hard deserved the money that they earned.
In construction, when you did "Piece Work", it was the same thing. Some called it Target Hours. If the roof paid 16 hours and I did it in 12, I got the 16 and moved to the next house.
There were jobs I worked where I made more than the foreman. One job I had would put you on Target Hours but if you beat the time, they told you that you were now paid hourly. One guy was really fast and when they said they'd switch to paying him hourly, he slowed down the pace. THAT right there is a perfect example of Capitalism VS Socialism. If the incentive to make more than the other guy is eliminated, the desire to work harder often goes away.
 
Years back when I was short on cash,
I think this covers most of us in the younger days.
Years back when I was short on cash,
Swapped a 340 into a 76 Power Wagon that included changing the oil pan. Just 2 guys about 10 hours. This includes driving 1 hour to and from my Dad's home to pull it from our backyard home made swing set. Needed done so we could go to work the next day.
I thinks back when I was young and seemed to fly thru mechanical work. Now I'm shocked at how slow I can be. lol
You said it !!!
 
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Once when I was much younger, I pulled 3 engines, 2 318s from 70s D series pickups, and 1 slant from a W series, v8 swapped the slant truck, and reinstalled the other 318 in the other D pickup in 2 days. That's 3 engines out, and 2 back in and running in 2 days. It would take 6 months now!
 
Didn't do exactly what you described, but I pulled the engine in my '74 Dart in 45 minutes flat with no help. That was starting with a running car till the engine was out of the bay. I didn't cut anything, as it had to go back together. Manual steering, no A/C also helped.
 
I thinks back when I was young and seemed to fly thru mechanical work. Now I'm shocked at how slow I can be. lol
Agreed, but I'm also shocked at how much more mechanical work I used to make for myself via cross-threaded bolts, stuff installed wrong, and 'shortcuts' that turned out to be dead-ends.
 
It has been awhile since I have done this.
Years back when I was short on cash, I'd swap in junkyard engines with no rebuilding done to them and have the car running in a day.
Back then, my cars were fun but not show quality. I didn't take the time to repaint engine bays, change anything or make upgrades except to swap engines. I've done several.
I had a 350 in a station wagon and a 305 in my Camaro. Both ran but the 305 was tired. I did a car for car swap and sold the wagon.
My brother had a Camaro with a dying 350, a buddy of his had a great 350 but his Camaro was a wreck. Nose to nose on the street, we swapped engines from car to car and the wrecked Camaro got junked.
I used to be able to do this in one day. This was with limited tools in less than ideal conditions.
Now I have plenty of tools and a roomy shop. I plan to do a 360 for 360 swap in a couple of weeks to this car:

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The car will eventually get painted but not right away. If I did have a plan to "do it right", I'd strip down the engine bay, weld up any and all unused holes and paint it the color that the car will be. For now, I just don't know what color that I want to paint it so I won't do anything but clean things up a bit.
This time I plan to drive it into the shop....

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.....Pull the running 360, install the rebuilt 360 and then drive it out.
The exhaust will stay in place. The transmission will stay in place. The 360 going in is a 9.5 to 1 roller 360 with #308 heads, 1.6 Hughes rocker arms, a mild roller cam, Air Gap intake....

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Those headers came from FABO member @MidnightSwinger. They were test fitted to see about oil filter access. They will go in later, not the day of the engine swap.
The engine coming out is a late 70s 360 from a junkyard. In 2000 or 2001, I helped a buddy of mine and his kid pull this engine, strip it down and after he had it cleaned and honed, we screwed it together with stock pistons. He built a better engine later and I bought this from him.

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It has about 8 to 1 compression, #308 heads, a MP 280/474 cam with a Weiand dual plane intake. The car runs pretty strong for being such a low compression mill.
I'm keeping the 8 to 1 360 for another car.
So what are your stories? Who has tales of their one day engine swaps? Maybe less than 6 hour swaps?
Are the A Body guys faster? :poke: :rofl:
 
I had a 66 Chevy pick up with a 250 6 cylinder and a three speed. 45 minutes to drive under the A-frame and drive out to the other side. We just swapped one engine for another.
 
Back in the mid 90s, I swapped the tired 318 for a used 360 in my '85 Dodge Van in the same day and test drove it to the bar for last call. My neighbor buddy asked me how long it would take me at around noon or 1pm that day and I told him we were gonna take it to the bar later on. He thought I was nuts. -he was sorta right!
I had a trailer that I painted to match the van and this was the rig that my band used to haul our gear with.

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Back in the mid 90s, I swapped the tired 318 for a used 360 in my '85 Dodge Van in the same day and test drove it to the bar for last call. My neighbor buddy asked me how long it would take me at around noon or 1pm that day and I told him we were gonna take it to the bar later on. He thought I was nuts. -he was sorta right!
I had a trailer that I painted to match the van and this was the rig that my band used to haul our gear with.

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Vans are a PITA to R&R the engine in... I've done 360's, 440's, 302's & a 7.3 Power Stroke... For the Power Stroke you lift the body off the frame....
 
THAT is some impressive work.
That is very impressive, working construction you may realize the other side of the coin. There is alot more to it than the paycheck.

When you work at a dealership on customers newer cars it carries a high level of responsibility to do the job correctly. To make it look and function like factory, or better. They rely on this vehicle to take them everywhere daily, and they bought new for reliability. These people have a bank loan on a valuable asset.

Also the work area should be completely set up with all the needed equipment and special tools that the repair manual calls for. Plus a well stocked tool box the employee owns. A work area designers for efficiency and ease to complete the job.p is a must.

Equally amazing is how much money the dealership makes from employees like this.

Can you tell I lived this life for a time? Glad I got out of it, but it was a fun and rewarding time of life. I was never the fastest but did quality work.
 
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My best was in a day, which included replacing the clutch while the engine was out. No lifts or hoists, just a come-along on an A frame. This included time-outs for lunch and dinner, and a beer run when I ran out...
Was MUCH younger then. Hell, now it takes me 20 minutes just to get up off the creeper- that is, if I don't fall asleep while I'm lying there. And another 20 minutes to figure out where I left that da*#! 9/16 wrench that I just had in my hand a minute ago.
 
This was 2 hours with two people to pull the engine and trans from a 67 Barracuda with bagging and tagging. If I’m by myself I’d wager about 3 hours to pull and another 2 for reinstall.

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The only time I’ve had to rush was a rebuild on the 383 in my 1983 el Camino SS. Blew it up on a Friday night and had to drive it to work Monday morning. Had it out by 1:00pm Saturday, rebuilt (honed, rings, bearings, and gaskets and a new cam) and back in and broken in by 8:00pm Sunday, and was at work at 6am Monday. That was a rough weekend.
 
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