I guess I’m lucky. My **** can be certified by anyone. 100% Mutt.
I guess I’m lucky. My **** can be certified by anyone. 100% Mutt.
I don’t know. I’ve never had a car that I would have worried about getting one.All of this talk about numbers, fender tags and such, I have a question. "Other" than the main subject at hand, is there another good, honest reasonable source where I might get a reproduction broadcast sheet for Vixen. I know she's "just" a slant six Valiant, but it would be cool to get that done. All of her body numbers match and from working on her it's pretty obvious she has the original drive train. Thanks.
I don’t know. I’ve never had a car that I would have worried about getting one.
I understand people want their car "validated" or "certified" to one degree or another. Within the investment crowd they love that crap because it equates to money/value. For the average Mopar guy/gal who owns a "normal" Mopar that has been touched by many hands over the years. changed around, etc. it has zero value. What people are paying guys like for are 2 things; first a full decoding of the car via the fender tag, broadcast sheet and perhaps what is physically there if it can be proven to have come that way (this is of course a slippery area). In most cases you are not going to learn a lot more than you already are aware of in reference to what is on the car or what it came with.
The second and actually more valuable part is the seemingly educated guess that a particular car is X of Y population; of course the smaller the numbers the better value wise. The problem comes in that Chrysler did not keep good records of many aspects of these cars so there is a lot of extrapolation going on in this action. Doesn't mean its accurate or factual but it is as close as you are going to get without a time machine.
People like GG can provide a valuable service in that they know about build trends, anomalies, dates of manufacturing, etc. They can tell you that your vehicle was built to CA specs or that it should not have had X or Y option but does. All these things are interesting and can in some cases equate to more value. The problem is that many people actually capable of doing this are few and far between and those that are out there generally reserve their services for big dollar cars.
I am not hating on the numbers gurus, only this POS because of his actions and lack of actions. He thought himself above the average Mopar owner and used his acquired knowledge to extort money from common people all the while looking down on many others. Again, this didn't have to be this way but he chose to do it. He could have not acted like an elitist and king, but chose to. For awhile he was "the man" but like all things this did not last and now he irrelevant. When he passes (like we all will), instead of being thought of fondly by the entire hobby, most will not notice, a few will celebrate and others will comment how the didn't even realize he was still around.
I wouldn't say it's a worry........just that I would like to have one. It has everything else.
Not sure build sheets are reproduced but sales sheets are. I had one made for the GTS. It’s based on the data on the fender tag. There are some that have questions about certain details of the car.
I put it up on the dash along with copies of the build sheet and a little history of the car. Makes for some good conversations
Say what you want but he was the one that compiled all the info, published the books, and turned it into a business. There was a nitch market that got filled.
Yup. I had a Marti report done on my old 87 lx ragtop. Damn thing was one of like 250 in that color that year and only one of 18 in that color with it's options. Was a real nice report and sent back to me pretty damn fast.
there a saying that I coined some time ago...”a Lion doesn’t have to tell you it’s a Lion”. What that means in this case is that it’s the guys who do the work and don’t blow their horn that do the best jobs. It’s been well established that Worman doesn’t do the quality of work of some of the better shops, but to hear him tell it, he’s the best in the business. TV or no TV, when you are the best, you don’t have to tell people how good you are. And at the 6 digit price point and 5 year wait time, you should be the best. TV reality shows are anything but, so that there turns me off right away.
Some pretty low production #s, depending on options, I had an 83 GLX coupe, V6 auto, with T-Tops, light blue with blue interior. Was one of 238 or something like that. If I can find the chart I used to determine that one, I'll post a link. I also had 2 1984.5 20th Anniversary convertibles, both were 5.0 5 speed cars, only made 537 of them IIRC.I would have loved to see some numbers on an 89Lx I owned for 16 years. Shoukd have never sold it. White 5spd with tan interior. Never seen another one with it.
I would have loved to see some numbers on an 89Lx I owned for 16 years. Shoukd have never sold it. White 5spd with tan interior. Never seen another one with it.
I have a fillable 1975 Broadcast sheet if you want that.That’s what I’ve been thinking of doing too. However, the sales sheets (style and fonts) changed in 1973 or 1974. I’ve seen a 1976 sales sheet which is different from 1974 but haven’t come across a 1975 sheet yet.
Everything that Govier used for his white books was available to dealership parts rooms for many years on micro fiche.IIRC, he bought the info from another person/group and figured out a way to monetize it.