1965 MMP's Barracuda Hemi swap! The Ever Changing Build

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last night didn't have much time, but I was able to splice in my fuel pump hot lead into the rear harness plug. Next I'll splice the hot lead into the EFI harness hot lead via the dash harness / plug. I saved the male and female ends from the old stock harness to cannibalize

So my plan is I have to build dash mount straps so i can mount the dash in the car but leaning forward so i can wire everything inplace. but before that I have to make sure everything that needs to be wired into the harness is mounted and ready. I also have to fab a sold mount for my shifter.
I have to figure out whether I hook my brake light direct to the lead from the efi harness or will it requires a relay to power the brake lights!?!?
I also have to decide what i'm going to do about the battery and mounting location.

Rear harness plug
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stock old used plug M/F
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New Modified plug using the dead space pin for fuel pump hot lead
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So spent the better part of my night last night playing with the dash harness and Identifying all the wires and taking notes of wire that will and wires that won't be used, and also identifying wire which I'll need to add. My car originally was a floor shift auto /6 with AC, a 3 speed wiper unit w/ washer fluid pump, Map light, and Glove box light. None of these options were included in the M&H harness.. I'm not going to be using most of these but it does make for a bit of an issue as the floor shift unit had a different routing and wiring for the reverse lights then that of the push button. The AC had a completely different harness set up than the standard heater box. The fun one to figure out was the wiper switch, it had about 4 more wire leads than the standard. So my stock harness was not the same and on top of that it had been hacked by I'm sure a few different owner. So I spend most of my night figuring out what was what. But I think I got a handle on it. Also took a look at the engine/ front light harness and it looks like I'm going to end up losing half of that and will have to build my own battery to starter to efi/key switch. Hoping to make that a clean little set up so I have as few wire under the hood as I can.. I prefer the clean look with motor.

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I also got my hide away antenna last night!

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Does anybody know where I can find the plastic gasket/ fittings for the rear quarter windows. I got new glass and want to replace the broken parts of plastic holding them in.

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Just scored a set of .060 Cometic (hard to find at the moment) head gaskets for my 6.1 head swap. Found a set in my area from a shop called FastHemis.com Ships today should have them tomorrow... Now I need to save my coin so I can buy new Lifters. My ecu and harness are a Non mds setup and my block still has the MDS system and lifters, and since I'm gonna be in there here soon I figure the smart thing to do is change them out and get that headache out of the way... After that all I have to do is figure out which bank I'm going to have to rob to get that 392/6 stroker kit i've been dreaming about :rolleyes:
 
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65barracudaLA said:
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Thank you!



--So on another note I have been working on this 6.1 head swap and bouncing between fasthemis and MMX for information as to the setup and thanks to Brandon at MMX we've put together a plan. We're going to keep the MDS lifters and cam ( at the moment ) we'll run the 6.1 heads and the .060 head gaskets to get us a 10.1:1cr. and run custom pushrods to take up the added valve lash and get the preload closer to .060-.080 this is until I can do that 392/6 stroker kit :poke:
So plan this weekend is we a have to roll the barracuda out of the garage so we can do some welding on my sons bug before we can drop the body back on the pan. At the same time I plan on finishing the shifter mounting and swap the heads. Grrrr! Pictures to follow
 
Got antsy last night, while the kid and the wife worked on homework so I stepped out to the garage and ended up swapping the passenger side head. To my surprise this motor looks like it is a very low mile motor, I was able to clean the pistons almost spotless with a small amount of work and brake cleaner. The heads i pulled off were just as clean. Pistons look stock but i can't tell, they have a few part numbers on them that I googled and couldn't find any info!?! 21_015 1404 06450249 ?? The cylinders don't have much if any build up or top ring ridge. Also I noticed all the water passages where clean and the pushrods themselves have minimal wear!

What I thought was crazy about the heads are physically they are same size, but the ports exhaust and mostly the intake are monstrous compared to the early 5.7 head I pulled off.. I can see why the guys on engine masters got the results they did..
Tonight I'm hoping to get the other side swapped and everything torqued down. I have a pushrod measuring kit for the hemi coming from MMX once I have that I'll be able to order the correct pushrods.

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Last night I had enough time to get the driver side head off. I was worried about the brake booster being in the way but I only had to contort the coil leads other than that it wasn't an issue. I didn't have as much time as I wanted so I wasn't able to clean up the pistons and install the head gasket and head but everything came off without any problem.
Made a bonehead mistake last night while at the autostore. lol ordered head bolts for the hemi but didn't check them before leaving. Got home and realized the kit was for only one side... ugh So I ordered another set and only got the passenger side torqued.

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I do have to say, the more and more I work on this motor the more I love it. I'm soo glad I made the switch and swapped this in.
I know its not everyones choice or want but this is my car and it make me happy and isn't that what all this is about?
I hope everyone enjoys there builds/cars as much as i enjoy mine!
 
MonkeyMadness said:
make me happy and isn't that what all this is about?
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Yes that is correct. I'm enjoying watching your progress. Me, I'm sticking with the old school LA engine. To each their own, correct. That's what this hobby is all about.
BTW: Kudos to you for taking on all the wiring and sensors, etc., etc. that goes along with your "restomod" = thumbs up:thumbsup:
 
Lastnight I got back to work on cleaning the pistons and prepping the block. I got the driverside mounted and torqued down. Now just waiting on the pushrod measuring kit. Once we have that we can order the correct pushrods.
Today I have to work on the shifter mount try and get that buttoned up before I have to roll the car out tomorrow. I got the majority of the dash harness labeled and "ready" for install. Going to make a strap mount that will allow me to mount the dash in a way that I can easily work behind it while it's in place. Should make for a much more comfortable install.


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Looks bad *** all assembled in that tiny engine bay. Nice work.
 
Wasn't feeling so hot Saturday so didn't do anything with the car. but Sunday the kid and I wheeled the Car out for a few glamor shots while the kid worked on welding in some panel patches on his project.
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Then after all the welding was finished we swapped the cars again so i could get back to work on the wiring and my dash setup. which went really well till I realized I have the wrong heater controls for this dash... ugh not a big problem, I was able to find what I need and go it ordered up should have it next week. till then I have plenty of work to do.
I was able to et the efi harness sorted and find a home for everything, also go my EPSA ecu mounted and control placed and even found a spot for the adjustment dial next to the parking brake. "its hard to see but in the last pic here lower right of the dash"
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Next I built support mount to mount the dash but rolled forward so I could work without being upside down the whole time. worked out well i have a lot of room to work either from below or from the top!
So from here on out I'm gonna start getting this thing finished ugh wires!
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Spent the day running wire and sorting things out. Welcome to my chaos...
Need to order an MSD-8918 tach signal GMR pickup to pull a tach reading. For some reason this swap harness doesn't have a tach lead.. ugh



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Great project! What are you planning for on exhaust? Is there any factory options that will fit?
 
Hello,
Sorry for the lack of update, but its the Summer and the wife and kid are out of school now so i find myself entertaining there needs in my free time. The kids' bug needed major surgery on the front end so I had to get that out of the way so I could get my garage back.. *The Kid did all the work, turns out I'm not a bad supervisor at all.. I should try and get a job at Caltrans HAHA :poke:
Its been a bit of slow going on the wiring. I had to order a new BIM cable for the Dakota digital tack pickup and fan control box could all interface with the dash control box. Both the fan control box and Tach control box are adjustable and need to be fiddled with while setting it up so I wanted to move them to a spot in which I or someone with me could do it without crawling up underneath the dash. So I had to get a long-er BIM cable to put them in the glove box.
I also finished/ finalized the mounting for the shifter and then built a center console to house it. I'll be covering the console in the same vinyl that we end up covering the seats with. Should turn out nice, really hides the eye sore of a shifter I have to use... ugh I was able to convert and shifter Rod to mount the stock shift ball so happy about that. I was also able to harness all the bent-up energy of a school teacher without a class and get her to make me a send of vinyl stickers on here cricket for the blank center caps it got for the mustang wheels we're rolling on - looks Good!

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Ooooofta that last pic should keep the neighbors away. Car is progressing really nicely.
 
good to see progress with your dash. I might have to steal your dash stays idea, simple but effective! Still a little way off with mine, not as crowded inside the dash as yours. Most of my electronics are mounted to custom firewall mounts. Dash itself is well underway, lower blue painted section will be the same brown vinyl as the custom crash pad. And the wheel will be retrimmed to match!

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Martythetrimmer said:
good to see progress with your dash. I might have to steal your dash stays idea, simple but effective! Still a little way off with mine, not as crowded inside the dash as yours. Most of my electronics are mounted to custom firewall mounts. Dash itself is well underway, lower blue painted section will be the same brown vinyl as the custom crash pad. And the wheel will be retrimmed to match!

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Not to hijack this thread, but Marty, I hope a V8 is going into that sexy beast
 
MonkeyMadness said:
Hello,
Sorry for the lack of update, but its the Summer and the wife and kid are out of school now so i find myself entertaining there needs in my free time. The kids' bug needed major surgery on the front end so I had to get that out of the way so I could get my garage back.. *The Kid did all the work, turns out I'm not a bad supervisor at all.. I should try and get a job at Caltrans HAHA :poke:
Its been a bit of slow going on the wiring. I had to order a new BIM cable for the Dakota digital tack pickup and fan control box could all interface with the dash control box. Both the fan control box and Tach control box are adjustable and need to be fiddled with while setting it up so I wanted to move them to a spot in which I or someone with me could do it without crawling up underneath the dash. So I had to get a long-er BIM cable to put them in the glove box.
I also finished/ finalized the mounting for the shifter and then built a center console to house it. I'll be covering the console in the same vinyl that we end up covering the seats with. Should turn out nice, really hides the eye sore of a shifter I have to use... ugh I was able to convert and shifter Rod to mount the stock shift ball so happy about that. I was also able to harness all the bent-up energy of a school teacher without a class and get her to make me a send of vinyl stickers on here cricket for the blank center caps it got for the mustang wheels we're rolling on - looks Good!

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You need to get out in the sun more, too pale LOL
 
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