Woe, woe is me. I just could not hold out any longer. Going to try cut apart and adapt this Hilborn to a SB Mopar, and "EFI" ..........eventually. Just pulled the trigger on th' Bay. No pump, hoses, nothing, just the intake.
Hilborn, Kinsler, Enderle, Algon, Jackson, 8 stack
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Del,what's one of those bad boys cost used,nowadays? Nice find,I'm jealous.
66340SEDAN
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Kewl :glasses7:
pishta
I know I'm right....
are you going to fog it? Injector placement will be tough seeing there is no chance to shoot it into the port of the head. Maybe inboard fuel rail and injectors at a 45...But that's a cool piece of gear, Mopar or not.
buy it....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222051430481?rmvSB=true
here is the modern EFI bung placement for an IR hilborn setup, note the 45 angle and staggered injectors so as to use 2 fuel rails.
buy it....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222051430481?rmvSB=true
here is the modern EFI bung placement for an IR hilborn setup, note the 45 angle and staggered injectors so as to use 2 fuel rails.
RustyRatRod
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Complete ones for Chev seem to start about 1500 and up. That's with the pump, etc. I paid a little less than half that for this one.
The plan is to build some side flanges and a flat plate valley and weld that up, then adapt parts of this thing to it. I may end up with 4 separate pieces........2 ports in each piece.
I also may try to mill down a used torker I have and use it as a base.
And like everything, it may or may not ever get done, LOL
Have not decided what to do there. "EarlyHemiBill" and I do wish he'd show up, was talking about hooking into injectors to make them look more "Hilborn" that is by using individual fittings instead of fuel rails.
Cool - keep us updated!
pishta
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I have seen injectors run off individual tubes, I think Datsun/Hitachi did that on the 280Z but the hose was very short. Might want to make them rigid too, pulsing hoses would look like some wild snakes in there!
Phreakish
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Hard lines to individual AN injector fittings would look slick.
I'd looked at the big block webber manifolds for doing something similar, since they're already separate (left and right) and the ports are close. Not perfect, but close. Ish.
Though I've also considered designing a custom deal with individual fuel feeds and the injectors buried between the runners to hide the technology.
There are ways to use 3d printing to make casting patterns or even directly print the investment mold - which would work better for something with internal passages. Wouldn't be cheap though, and would still require machine work of course.
Interesting to see how this turns out.... :scratch:
I also considered B/RB Mopar. But injection (usually Algon) is worse than Chev for price. You can always cut them in half and make "4" pieces which is what I may do here, depending.
The one problem with using B/RB Algon injection is that the tubes are angled "in" and may interfere if the stacks are not short.
YES!! I also looked at weber. In fact you can buy a Chev/ weber "knockoff" fairly reasonable...........but these you could not cut apart if necessary
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-CROSS...m4198919b5b:m:mRLTgQNvysd8kO6GurK9R-w&vxp=mtr
mguner
How many is too many?
Petty made some sort of adapter to run Bow Tie intakes....
MiradaMegaCab
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I had plates made. I didn't port or drill and tap them but the angels are right for a sb chevy intake to be mounted on a sb Mopar. They are for sale....
Phreakish
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Agreed. Lots of $$ and work no matter what. This is what I was looking at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHRYSLER-DO...ash=item418c55c846:g:voYAAOSw0vBUictR&vxp=mtr
Cut each one in half, and then basically make a valley pan and either weld or bolt it all together... It's the valley pan and thermostat housing that makes it all the more challenging.
Really looking forward to seeing what you're able to do with the setup you picked up.
Tell us more about what you have there..........?
MiradaMegaCab
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Some more pics, I will post dimensions on these adapters if anyone else wants to attempt this manifold swap.
67Dart273 I had the same idea of welding a valley pan to the two adapters. Like many projects, I never finished this one as I located a cast sb Mopar 6-71 blower manifold.
67Dart273 I had the same idea of welding a valley pan to the two adapters. Like many projects, I never finished this one as I located a cast sb Mopar 6-71 blower manifold.
I did not realize the angles were different. What "sort of money" are we talking for a pair of those?
I probably won't do that, IE "complete manifold." I'm hoping to make simple straight flanges, cut the injection manifold up as in "multipiece" and just use the side pieces of the manifold. Of course that "may change" LOL
I probably won't do that, IE "complete manifold." I'm hoping to make simple straight flanges, cut the injection manifold up as in "multipiece" and just use the side pieces of the manifold. Of course that "may change" LOL
Phreakish
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I'd be terribly interested! I could work at putting together a few drawings and see what some of the shops I know would charge. If they're just a few angles and ports cut in, I can't imagine they'd cost a whole lot.
Don't get too excited LOL This may be a dream that never gets off the ground. I have looked around the www. I've found a few guys who did this and of course one "famous" one is the Blasphemi 55 chev.
Cope
Fusing with fire
Hot rod, April 2016 has a chevy EFI stack manifold on a 318 poly and a chevy manifold on a ford. may be good for some ideas..?
MFI is cool.
MFI is cool.
pishta
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IIRC, the chevy head has a 40 degree intake face from horizontal, while the Mopar has a 48, so maybe some 8 degree shims at the right width could make them work as posted? May want to look those figures up again....
MiradaMegaCab
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That's a sb Mopar gasket laying on a sb chevy intake.
Porting of the adapter plates looks to be easy.
Best of luck on your project.
Porting of the adapter plates looks to be easy.
Best of luck on your project.
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