number of horns- '68 barracuda

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got one - was a second one an option? seems to be an unused tab for maybe a second horn on the relay. Wondering how/where it mounts. any info/pic appreciated. thnx
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Dual note horn was an option. They usually mount on the backside of the radiator support like your single one is. Let me look for a photo of my Swinger, it came with 1 but I added another. The mounting should be similar.
 
Does that horn work/blow? The wiring doesn't look correct to me. Should be a hot wire on a terminal, and ground wire or signal wire from the horn switch on a terminal, and a 3rd wire on a terminal going out to 1 or 2 horns.
I almost went out to my car to look but half way to the door I remembered I no longer have the OEM relay.
 
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The wiring is correct, horns ground at bracket, at least they do on a '71 A body. That looks awfully familiar for some reason!
 
Never seen a Abody with 1 horn?
Thanks for education
I have one on my 68 fastback, it has 2 female plug ins for 2 horns neither stock ones worked, I bought a low note one from o`riellies for around $13 , never went back after the hi note for it------------
 
Probably would only find that on a fleet type car with radio delete. There was a package available on E bodys that really minimized the basics with just one horn and some other odds and ends to cut cost, seen a rallye Cuda on eBay that had it but can't remember the exact option. May have been available on an A body sport/performance model to offset costs.
 
Probably would only find that on a fleet type car with radio delete. There was a package available on E bodys that really minimized the basics with just one horn and some other odds and ends to cut cost, seen a rallye Cuda on eBay that had it but can't remember the exact option. May have been available on an A body sport/performance model to offset costs.
my stock form S had two plugs and horns from the factory----------------they neither worked, I junked them and bought the cheap horn from o`rillies, but they only had the low note at the time
I aint paying no $60 for 50 yr old horns !!
 
Dual horns on a 67 and 68 is a #480 code on the build sheet. I did see that in the book.
 
ok thanks- I'm set on adding one -could get interesting. First have to see if I have a hi or lo now. sounds lo I think. maybe they come w/bracket. looks like would ground to mounting location then get a hot lead off the relay. your seem strung together - maybe that is another way to go.
 
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hey those pics are perfect - thanks - are you sure your horns are in stock location? looks like it. I don't think mine is; relay got stuck in there on mine - your relay must be elsewhere.
 
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67 model relay was in the same place. Its hot wire straight off the alternator wiring. Two horns with wire jumpered one to the other. They did move the horn relay sometime in 68.
 
ahh..that makes sense - sometimes I forget I got a '67 front clip (shhh- don't tell the purists..they'll have my a**!)
 
ahh..that makes sense - sometimes I forget I got a '67 front clip (shhh- don't tell the purists..they'll have my a**!)
That may explain why that horn does work the way its wired. Your horn switch signaling another relay somewhere? Relay shown not req'd? The 2 female spade terminal you have could go to 2 horns? Beats me. That wire with blue heat shrink on it.... where does it come from?
 
I will have to find out. Pretty good observation on your part- just came in from garage scratching my head - horn is working but I have no voltage on any of the terminals in that location - not the relay/not the horn -(no extra set of hands, but power obviously gets there when horn ring is pushed) so yes, am thinking there must be another relay somewhere...
 
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that 'blue' wire disappears into taped harness with headlight/turns/side marker/etc. wiring. Looked for another relay all the easy places..nothing. Could they have 12V running up to the horn contact instead of a ground wire?
 
hey those pics are perfect - thanks - are you sure your horns are in stock location? looks like it. I don't think mine is; relay got stuck in there on mine - your relay must be elsewhere.

Pretty sure, but I will confirm against the other car to make sure. Too darn cold last night!
 
Pretty sure, but I will confirm against the other car to make sure. Too darn cold last night!
don't worry about it - probably A-OK - mine has some weird stuff going on anyway..horn stuff can be a PIA
 
Can 't find any other relay...weird. Will try by-passing relay completely and see how horn operates. Toolman, where is your relay on your set-up?
 
OK - so this relay is doing nothing as wired - I proved the green/red stripe wire is hot when horn ring pushed, the black wire up top is a ground, horn works w or w/o black wire connected and without green/red connected to relay (just to horn). When horn ring is pushed there is no voltage from the top or middle terminals - middle also ground. I'm thinking the horn ring on steering wheel might be wired hot and when pushed it completes the 12v circuit to horn. Seems otherwise there should be low voltage to one terminal and 12V to another. Hoping that someone that has wired one of these circuits up as it was designed can lend some insight. (this does not rule out possibility there is another relay in line somewhere actually doing what it should and routing 12V with the green/red when activated.)

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Can 't find any other relay...weird. Will try by-passing relay completely and see how horn operates. Toolman, where is your relay on your set-up?
I don't know. My car is locked up in storage or I would go see.
 
OK - so this relay is doing nothing as wired - I proved the green/red stripe wire is hot when horn ring pushed, the black wire up top is a ground, horn works w or w/o black wire connected and without green/red connected to relay (just to horn). When horn ring is pushed there is no voltage from the top or middle terminals - middle also ground. I'm thinking the horn ring on steering wheel might be wired hot and when pushed it completes the 12v circuit to horn. Seems otherwise there should be low voltage to one terminal and 12V to another. Hoping that someone that has wired one of these circuits up as it was designed can lend some insight. (this does not rule out possibility there is another relay in line somewhere actually doing what it should and routing 12V with the green/red when activated.)

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The relay should be mounted on the left front behind the kick panel inside. In your picture the top terminal is ground from the horn ring on the column, Black with white trace. The middle terminal should be violet from the +12 splice under the dash. The bottom terminal is dark green with red trace to the bulkhead connector L. Then on through forward light harness to the horns.

69 was similar but the Dark Green/red went through the front light harness.

67 is the only 2nd gen year that had the horn relay in the engine bay!

Pic of my 69 attached.

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Pic of the horns on my un-restored original, mounted in same position as member 1969383S pic.
Looks like I need to do some changing on the green 68 Formula S (pics above).
Top horn is on wrong side of bracket, and ground is on wrong side of radiator support.

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