Should a clutch fan spin after the motor is shut off??

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Hey All

MY car has been getting hot when idling. Today I shut it off, and noticed the clutch fan was still spinning like mad after the engine stopped.

Is it supposed to do that?

Steve
 
Yep, the clutch unit is probably done. Time for a replacement...
 
agreed with above, clutch is toast.

edit, thought below info was great. 'tach' mentioned
is about $ 18 or so...


How EXACTLY is fan clutch "checked"?

Here in Las Vegas, I see it all the time - the vehicle does not boil the radiator, so the assumption is that the clutch is OK.

At high ambient temps, airflow over the condensor is crucial to good performance. Most fan clutches have 2 stages of "drive". The first stage is the "fluid coupling", which depends on a fluid inside the clutch with a viscosity that changes with temperature. The second stage involves a bimetallic spring (like in a household thermostat) To mechanically decrease the clearances in the clutch, which causes higher fan speeds.

Just like the oil in your crankcase, the fluid in the clutch breaks down with use. it "shears" the high viscosity fluid, and it becomes thin - no longer driving the fan well. This also affects the "locked" performance of the fan, since most new fans do not actually incorporate an actual mechanical lock. With the fluid thinned way down by wear and heat, it is also more prone to leak out of the clutch assembly.

The first sign of failure, is less noise - especially on cold start up. On a cool morning the fan should make a racket for a few seconds at least. If it spins with a fingertip when cold, it is shot. When the vehicle is left to idle on a hot day with the A/C on, it should "lock" the fan clutch within 3 minutes or so. Again, when you accelerate away from that long stoplight, you should hear the fan roaring.

For a more scientific test of fan speed, I use a model airplane tachometer. A simple photocell tach, available at hobby stores. The actual blade count and fan speed are not important, so no complicated math is required. Simply check the fan 'speed' at idle - the tach will give you a number (N). Now, increase engine speed to twice the idle speed used for the first test. If the fan was driven 100%, the model tach should read twice the original reading, or 2N. With a bad fan clutch, I have seen as little as 5% increase in fan speed. Let the vehicle idle with the A/C on for several minutes, so that the fan clutch should be 'locked". Measure the speed with the model tach, and then have an assistant raise the engine speed to double the idle speed. The fan should run AT LEAST 75% faster than idle. if it is only 50% faster, it is junk.

Just because a vehicle does not overheat, does not mean that the fan clutch is operating correctly.
 
Thanks for the help guys. I'm thinking its electric fan time.

Steve
 
I'd just replace the fan clutch.

Electric fans suck for the most part unless you get a real hum-dinger with some serious airflow, temperature controlled with relay and all the goodies.
 
I'd just replace the fan clutch.

Electric fans suck for the most part unless you get a real hum-dinger with some serious airflow, temperature controlled with relay and all the goodies.

Yeah but you know if they're working or not. LOL
 
I take a look at how long they spin after you shut the engine off when hot. if it takes more than a few seconds its bad.
 
The easiestway to tell if they are really working...................

let it idle till it gets really warm and then take it for a ride. If it sounds like a B-17 on take-off roll- it's working correctly.
 
yeah, its bad. It spins for a while after I shut it off, even when the temp gauge reads *180, and there's no fan noise on "take off", though my exhaust is kinda loud.

Where do you obtain a new clutch fan? How much do they cost?

Thanks
 
An easy way to tell is hold the fan & have someone start the car , you can feel the fluid wanting to turn the fan , if its bad you wont feel anything . Obviously you dont try to stop the fan if you let go of it while its running . Btw you can hold just one blade with one hand . 5sec test
 
yeah, its bad. It spins for a while after I shut it off, even when the temp gauge reads *180, and there's no fan noise on "take off", though my exhaust is kinda loud.

Where do you obtain a new clutch fan? How much do they cost?

Thanks

I got mine at the local parts store for around 30 bucks. Just be sure to bring in your old one to compare. They made a long shaft and a short shaft clutch.
 
You could also score one off of a wreck at wrecking yard.Just spin to see how tight they are.Lots to be had at a much lower cost.Good luck!
 
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