Thoughts on a 390 cu in. stroker from a 318?

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Notsure what you're asking, inferring, or saying.
Why don't you enlighten us.
I think he means, moving torque to an higher rpm.


We can’t have work outside of time and the time (rate) it takes to do work is what is important to us. And horse power is how we measure that rate. So to move (work over time)a boat it takes power to do so, which is torque and rpm.
 
rpm goes down. the more torque the less rpm it takes for my Ford to pull your Dodge out of the ditch. lol

I should have said what happens when the torque goes up BELOW peak but I wasn’t clear about that.

That should be the question.
 
1200 ft lbs 500 hp. lol
Sounds like you're referring to an all aluminum GAA Ford Tank engine, which is 1000 ci, with 1000lb & 500hp.
Torque is From idle to 2200rpm & 500hp@ 2600rpm. Flat plane crank, shaft driven DOHC, supposed crossflow induction(actually Log Intake Manifolds, cast in head, that feed from both ends).
Bore 5.4", stroke 6", twin magneto, twin plug, can run on either or both.
12 Cylinder GAC 770hp.
Also a few 10 cylinders made as prototypes.
 

Yet you just clarified it!
I'm pretty sure his point is after peak torque as rpm continues to rise torque is falling but power is rising, So when an engines torque is down an considerable amount the engine is making it's most power and at peak torque it's making way less power. Kind of at odd's with torque being King type thing.
 
I'm pretty sure his point is after peak torque as rpm continues to rise torque is falling but power is rising, So when an engines torque is down an considerable amount the engine is making it's most power and at peak torque it's making way less power. Kind of at odd's with torque being King type thing.
I never said torque was king. All I said was 318s were used as Marine Engines by Chrysler Marine Division and marine engines need torque, to do the job, as acceleration from a stop means the engine is using torque to push itself out of the water, as water is more dense than air, and rolling resistance much less, plus aero drag is much less than water drag. I didn't spell it out like this, but most on here have enough experience to understand what I said.
Turk seemed to lack that understanding, but I know better, as he does understand much more difficult concepts, so it seemed like he was just flapping his lips to make an unnecessary comment.
Somtimes the basics are overlooked here but not everyone on these sites knows it all & basics can help their understanding.
 
I never said torque was king. All I said was 318s were used as Marine Engines by Chrysler Marine Division and marine engines need torque, to do the job, as acceleration from a stop means the engine is using torque to push itself out of the water, as water is more dense than air, and rolling resistance much less, plus aero drag is much less than water drag. I didn't spell it out like this, but most on here have enough experience to understand what I said.
Turk seemed to lack that understanding, but I know better, as he does understand much more difficult concepts, so it seemed like he was just flapping his lips to make an unnecessary comment.
Somtimes the basics are overlooked here but not everyone on these sites knows it all & basics can help their understanding.
Why I gave you the Arnold Wrong Meme, Power (hp) moves your boat which is made up of RPM & torque, torque alone does nothing (absence of rpm (time) aka a non spinning prop).
 
No torque is applied(or does anything) until it is called on to do some work.
You're getting into details that really mean nothing to most people.
Are you an engineer? You seem to be adding complexity to manys' understanding that they don't need to know.
Physic do rule, but details sometimes unnecessary.
Nor do I know it all either. And what you've stated hasn't helped me to grasp it any better.
 
A buddy of mine got into the high 9.90's with a '390' with a turbo in a 94 Dakota.....
 
No torque is applied(or does anything) until it is called on to do some work.
Not necessarily
You're getting into details that really mean nothing to most people.
Are you an engineer?
Nope
You seem to be adding complexity to manys' understanding that they don't need to know.
No you adding confusion with misleading/false statements, why so many seem confused by what should be a simple concept.
Physic do rule, but details sometimes unnecessary.
Nor do I know it all either. And what you've stated hasn't helped me to grasp it any better.
Torque and rpm = power and power is what's used, it's pretty simple, no hp VS torque, no torque does X and hp does Y, hp does it all and that is made up from rpm and torque.

Can you have torque absence of power ? yes but if no power is being used no movement over time has took place. Which has basically zero to do with POWERING cars, boats etc..
 
Not necessarily

Nope

No you adding confusion with misleading/false statements, why so many seem confused by what should be a simple concept.

Torque and rpm = power and power is what's used, it's pretty simple, no hp VS torque, no torque does X and hp does Y, hp does it all and that is made up from rpm and torque. Can you have torque absence of power ? yes but if no power is being used no movement over time has took place. Which has basically zero to do with POWERING cars, boats etc..
Once again you're adding no understanding.
And Iv'e misled noone just stating what I know.
You are usually a person that states interesting & knowledgeable things and I know you are both because Iv'e read & learned from you. But your continued arguments add nothing.
Continue if you must...
 
Once again you're adding no understanding.
And Iv'e misled noone just stating what I know.
You are usually a person that states interesting & knowledgeable things and I know you are both because Iv'e read & learned from you. But your continued arguments add nothing.
Continue if you must...
Believe what you want
 
Not necessarily

Nope

No you adding confusion with misleading/false statements, why so many seem confused by what should be a simple concept.

Torque and rpm = power and power is what's used, it's pretty simple, no hp VS torque, no torque does X and hp does Y, hp does it all and that is made up from rpm and torque.

Can you have torque absence of power ? yes but if no power is being used no movement over time has took place. Which has basically zero to do with POWERING cars, boats etc..
Right or wrong, and I'm not picking sides but, many people use the word torque when refering to horsepower that is at the low range of the rpm curve. And when referring to the higher side of the rpm curve they switch to horse power. I don't think it is a coincidence that torque numbers are bigger at the low rpm end and horse power numbers are bigger at the high rpm end of the curve. Everybody likes big numbers. You hear it everywhere. Even by people that fully understand the difference between horsepower and torque and would be considered knowledgeable in the high performance field.. Call it slang or what ever. Just like some people use the word power in place of Horse power.
 
Right or wrong, and I'm not picking sides but, many people use the word torque when refering to horsepower that is at the low range of the rpm curve. And when referring to the higher side of the rpm curve they switch to horse power. I don't think it is a coincidence that torque numbers are bigger at the low rpm end and horse power numbers are bigger at the high rpm end of the curve. Everybody likes big numbers. You hear it everywhere. Even by people that fully understand the difference between horsepower and torque and would be considered knowledgeable in the high performance field.. Call it slang or what ever. Just like some people use the word power in place of Horse power.
I agree a lot seem to think/see torque/hp that way, that torque is what powers in lower rpms than hp takes over in higher rpms, basically what a dyno graph seems to show, and obviously easier to read what's going on bellow peak power by looking at the torque curve, but in the end of the day power (work over time) is what counts, from idle to redline.
 
I have a 5.9 r/t with a comp roller.
It probably makes 275 hp, that's way to much power for me.
 
Without knowing the heads and thinking they’re going to somewhat stock magnums heads, a .030 over 318 with a four inch crank here is PLENTY enough for towing and whatever else you’re intending on doing with it. Hopefully it’s got a Power-lock Dana rear under it. Club cab W-150 with 3.90 gear and 35 inch tires. 391 inch stroked 318 backed an NV4500 gas transmission. This the 11.4:1 Eddy head/comp 274XE variant, but a 9:1 junk gas build with a mild torquey cam would blow the rear tires away at will.
 
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