indeed it was.
it's rare this day in age that somebody puts on show the full spectrum of their personality. I applaud you for that, it's very brave.
David Vizard, Uncle Tony's garage, Unity motorsport. Mission impossible Dodge 302 Head porting
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it's rare this day in age that somebody puts on show the full spectrum of their personality. I applaud you for that, it's very brave.
And I asked where you have been. Its even rarer to find some one who can come to an impartial finding after repeated attempts at character assimilation.
I can see why you are the hero in the junkyard......Maybe you and Rat can save the world one engine at a time.
I know for a fact that they are 587 heads. It's in the moparts thread. I bounced some PM's off of Dan or Don, the owner chatting about the heads/car/combo maybe 8-9 years ago.
The line from moparts was posted in the thread about the cam, etc. by Hysteric
That thing I thought was a 360, may have been a stroker 410+ engine. That escapes me on CI right now.
That Demon is still one of my favorite A body door cars.
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Not even yourself for your errant behavior.
The rest of your points are absolute drivel. Never on any of the occasions that I've posted that pic have I implied they are 318 heads. What that picture represents is what smart people can do with a head YOU deem as too small for the cubes. It's not an impediment to power like you make it out to be.
Everyone knows its a fact because its been made clear many times. Its just convenient to forget it when I post it. And it's 410 cubes as I've stated earlier.
TINY head BIG power........
Rat Bastid
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Everyone knows its a fact because its been made clear many times. Its just convenient to forget it when I post it. And it's 410 cubes as I've stated earlier.
TINY head BIG power........
LOL. What do you call “big power”. Running the numbers he may make 600 hp. On what?? 410 inches?
Thats under 1.5 HP/CID.
lead69
hopeless car junkie
So now you are saying 360 heads are tiny?, all I know is you make my head hurt. Stay on topic man, is it a 302 or a 587 that you make love too?, and I can tell you the 587 is the best flowing stock small block head casting to work with, I have used several sets. So the guy has a 410 with 587 heads and a .590 racer brown cam, far cry from a 318 with 302 heads. Its pretty obvious you like to sit back and watch the mayhem after you stir the pot, and repeat, and repeat, well have fun man.Everyone knows its a fact because its been made clear many times. Its just convenient to forget it when I post it. And it's 410 cubes as I've stated earlier.
TINY head BIG power........
my finding was far from impartial. in so many words, you said that intelligent people can carry on a conversation without resorting to name calling. which is humorous because you did that very thing only posts earlier.
I understand how hard it must be to focus with all of these people living rent free inside of your head; but I believe the word you were looking for was assassination? because, I mean, who's really trying to fully understand who you are? not anybody around here as far as I can tell. certainly not me.
but you're putting in good work here, keep it up and you'll get that promotion one day. until then, here's another shovel.
Yep where have you been........
You've just confirmed I've taken up residence in yours. Thank you for taking all that time to formulate a what I can only assume is a rebuttal of sorts to what I have no clue.
I'm learning a bunch! None of it i will repeat,.......if you don't put a log on the fire, it will eventually go out.
To all of FABO:
I am writing to express my dismay and concern over Mr. Hysteric’s frightful perversions. But first, let me pose you a question: Is Mr. Hysteric actually concerned about any of us, or does he just want to pour a few drops of wormwood into our general enthusiasm? After reading this letter, you’ll certainly find it’s the latter. Before I continue, let me state that knowledge and wisdom are Mr. Hysteric’s enemies. He understands that by limiting education and enlightenment, he can fool more people into believing that he has an independent mind, rigorous intellect, impeccable credentials, and a record of excellence and integrity. Sadly, those with the least education are those who would benefit most from the knowledge that to say that Mr. Hysteric’s claims won’t be used for political retribution is crabby nonsense and untrue to boot. In case you don’t know, Mr. Hysteric is trying to mute the voice of anyone who dares to speak out against him. His mission? To exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not vagarious, incoherent palookas.
I’m sure you get my point here. If you believe nothing else that I’ve written about Mr. Hysteric, you can believe this: Mr. Hysteric plans to demand that Earth submit to the dominion of scary slanderers by the end of this thread. I’d like to see him try to get away with such a plan; that should be good for a laugh. You see, most people have already observed that Mr. Hysteric’s brainless, mindless chicaneries lie at the intersection of obscurantism, neocolonialism, and academicism—the standard troika of abusive thought. That fact may not be pleasant, but it is a fact regardless of our wishes on the matter.
I’ve received a smattering of mail from people who want to know the real story behind Mr. Hysteric’s prurient artifices, so here it is: What I wrote just a moment ago is not the paranoid rambling of a froward wacko. It’s a fact. While self-justification may motivate mordacious, ophidian rubes, the same campaigns of malice and malignity also work well for cantankerous, acrasial hypochondriacs. Let me carry my thoughts on this subject a bit further. We must show Mr. Hysteric that we are not powerless pedestrians on the asphalt of life. We must show him that we can build a true community of spirit and purpose based on mutual respect and caring. Maybe then Mr. Hysteric will realize that he ought to tone down his destructive behavior. He’ll never be cuddly, but he can decidedly be more polite. Everything I’ve written in this letter amounts to this: Mr. Hysteric’s oppugnant criticisms are merely the newest fruits of a decades-long, relentless assault on civil discourse and intellectual independence.
I am writing to express my dismay and concern over Mr. Hysteric’s frightful perversions. But first, let me pose you a question: Is Mr. Hysteric actually concerned about any of us, or does he just want to pour a few drops of wormwood into our general enthusiasm? After reading this letter, you’ll certainly find it’s the latter. Before I continue, let me state that knowledge and wisdom are Mr. Hysteric’s enemies. He understands that by limiting education and enlightenment, he can fool more people into believing that he has an independent mind, rigorous intellect, impeccable credentials, and a record of excellence and integrity. Sadly, those with the least education are those who would benefit most from the knowledge that to say that Mr. Hysteric’s claims won’t be used for political retribution is crabby nonsense and untrue to boot. In case you don’t know, Mr. Hysteric is trying to mute the voice of anyone who dares to speak out against him. His mission? To exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not vagarious, incoherent palookas.
I’m sure you get my point here. If you believe nothing else that I’ve written about Mr. Hysteric, you can believe this: Mr. Hysteric plans to demand that Earth submit to the dominion of scary slanderers by the end of this thread. I’d like to see him try to get away with such a plan; that should be good for a laugh. You see, most people have already observed that Mr. Hysteric’s brainless, mindless chicaneries lie at the intersection of obscurantism, neocolonialism, and academicism—the standard troika of abusive thought. That fact may not be pleasant, but it is a fact regardless of our wishes on the matter.
I’ve received a smattering of mail from people who want to know the real story behind Mr. Hysteric’s prurient artifices, so here it is: What I wrote just a moment ago is not the paranoid rambling of a froward wacko. It’s a fact. While self-justification may motivate mordacious, ophidian rubes, the same campaigns of malice and malignity also work well for cantankerous, acrasial hypochondriacs. Let me carry my thoughts on this subject a bit further. We must show Mr. Hysteric that we are not powerless pedestrians on the asphalt of life. We must show him that we can build a true community of spirit and purpose based on mutual respect and caring. Maybe then Mr. Hysteric will realize that he ought to tone down his destructive behavior. He’ll never be cuddly, but he can decidedly be more polite. Everything I’ve written in this letter amounts to this: Mr. Hysteric’s oppugnant criticisms are merely the newest fruits of a decades-long, relentless assault on civil discourse and intellectual independence.
Rat Bastid
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Oh brother. So you are saying that a head with more flow won’t make more power?
If you weren’t such an equivocator I’d agree with you. But not for what you think.
As I’ve said before, flow is WAY down on the list of things that make power.
Shape and size are far more critical than what your flow bench says your heads flow.
You do most engine builders don’t use a flow bench any more. How can that be??? Could it be they don’t live and die by flow numbers like amateur porters like you do?
Naw, that can’t be it. Or can it?
let me just ask you one question
I this was your first post in a new/your thread.............What forum would this fit in.
Other Stuff For Sale or Wanted, probably. maybe.
220 cfm from that tiny port with that tiny valve......... should be more than enough for what David Vizard needs depending on what fuel he goes with........
Should be interesting to see how it goes. Don't worry I'll keep you all posted on its development so you can LOSE your **** again and again.....
The term "Most' would imply more than 50% of engine builders. Did you ring them all up and ask them or did you poll them through the use of an agency. Or did you just pull that out of your arse in an attempt to appear like you know what you're on about. Wake up clown.
This one: https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/
Rat Bastid
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Most includes all the head porters I know personally and some who I’ve watched on various media doing interviews and such.
Most of the guys I know who port and make POWER spend most of their time on the flow bench measuring air speed, and manipulating that to make power.
Just because other guys will read this thread it’s worth it to keep exposing your bullshit.
If the GOAL is to make 1 HP/CID such as this Mickey Mouse, Rube Goldberg build does that mean that once it makes that 1 HP/CID that that it? That’s all it can do?
Or, is it possible (probable) that you can make MORE than 1 HP/CID with a better head that has a better port that flows more air?
F’ing A right will make more power. Which is EXACTLY my point. Why would anyone with the IQ of a pencil waste time and money on a garbage casting (302) to make 1 HP/CID when they can use a FAR better casting (any 340/360 head with 1.88 valves) and spend less time and money AND a make MORE POWER? Why would anyone spend more money to make LESS power? Again, you wouldn’t IF you have an IQ higher than a potted plant.
And, if you use the 360 castings, you won’t even have to look at a grinder let alone get one out and use it.
For the audience these guys are trying to reach the 360 casting is better by ANY metric you want to apply with MAYBE the exception of HP/CFM. Really, who gives a single **** IF you make more power with more CFM but you had less HP/CFM? No one I know unless you get off on wasting time and money to mentally masturbate yourself into ecstasy over a metric that really doesn’t apply here.
And, no offense to anyone here or any fans of DV, AW, UT or Charlie but the VAST majority of the guys watching don’t have the skill to take a 302 casting and make it get close to the power of the 360 casting.
So hopefully this gets through your arrogant, thick head.
For THIS project porting 320 castings rather than using 360 castings is mindless and wasteful and all of that AND you make less power?
Thats the way politicians think. You spend more, get less and claim you are a hero.
Yep there it is. You pull **** out of your arse and claim it as fact.
Go find your own project instead of bitching about David's........He can do whatever he likes.
You seem to be too obsessed with what other people are doing which tells me you need help. Go and get a life doing what ever makes YOU happy instead of chasing down people because they don't do things your way.
Just the Facts man, Just The Facts.All the rest is just Plain old, hot air/Drama.
But then again, that is what keep this Forum alive.
Dartswinger70
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If you are going to rev it and want top end power you need the port flow of the bigger heads. this isn't a battle this is the truth of 1 reason why the 340 revs to 6000 rpm and can be built to 400 HP. Another is high comression The vizard build will end up with a 4 barrel and bigger port heads wait for it. Those who beleive Uncle Tony are being played for suckers by a snake oil salesman. the initial claim was like a red lazer to guide the pussycats over to Vizard's newly built channel.
RAMM
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All the rest is just Plain old, hot air/Drama.
But then again, that is what keep this Forum alive.
Yeah, I can't help myself--good ole drama.
I fell for the '302 hype ONCE--They really remind me of the Ford 302 JUNK. Both are exceedingly bad at making meaningful power. Meaningful in this case is 350+HP. These characters know this which is why they have set the bar below that (350hp). Now if the plan keeps evolving with better parts, better fuel, etc... Don't be surprised when the numbers top 400hp and the general viewership forgets about all the moved goal posts along the way--If this plays out like I think it will-
-They are counting on people focusing on:
1. They've done the impossible with just a 318
2. They've done the impossible with "stock" 318 heads
3. They've done the impossible on a "budget"
4. Nobody but "this elite group of geniuses" could accomplish this great feat so you better keep Liking & Subscribing
Point 4 is easily the most important to them
Rat Bastid
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And yet here YOU are, living vicariously through a project that isn’t yours, in which you have no say and you defend this joke like its yours.
Its YOU who needs help.
Stop acting like this project is yours. Why not do something for yourself and post that here? Are you embarrassed of your own junk?
Either way, you are a sad little man.
I could be wrong but I thought their goal was to do it with a bbd 2 barrel. They gave themselves a set of perimeters to build the engine around whether or not they stick to it remains to be seen. Think of it like if a customer had you build an IMCA stock car motor that had to run on a 2bbl. carb, 360 cubic inch limit, 9:1 compression and a spec head and intake. You wouldn't refuse to build it would you? I bet you would work hard to build the best engine you could within those perimeters. And probably you would be very successful. Am I close? I doubt you would tell your customer you could make more power for the money with a 13:1 406 with a 4 barrel. On the other hand if you just don't like Tony and want to use this thread as a way to express that then go ahead. But faulting them them for not working outside the primeters they have already set up would be like someone else being critical of you for building a spec motor with in the rules provided.
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