source?
edit for clarification: source on phosphate that is soluble in acetone that would be used as an automotive coating.
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Clean your piston rings
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source?
edit for clarification: source on phosphate that is soluble in acetone that would be used as an automotive coating.
Just helps with the break in
You do know black phosphate is also called Parkerization, right? So you think brake cleaner is gonna dissolve parkerizing on camshafts, guns and everything else? Sorry buddy. It's not happening. Do you have any idea how many parkerized camshafts through the years have been shot with brake cleaner? Me either, but no reports of parkerizing drooling off on the floor.
skrews
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Just tried rubbing one of the rings from the video between my clean fingers. That was enough to sluff off some of the phosphate coating on to my finger tips. Again I don't want that excessive phosphate coming off and riding around in my engine, especially in the cylinders. The first ring from the pic in post 1 was indeed dirty, grimey, grungy. Probably a result of the addition of the gas porting process if I had to guess.
And Acetone is extremely flammable
Actually I think you are incorrect on this. Cleaning loose product and dissolving product which has been coated plated/ etc as vastly different, so yeh. We are gonna need proof here.
He talks about phosphate coating and black oxide too. Two different things. Even black oxide ain't comin off with brake cleaner. That'd mean you could rinse the black oxide coating right off oxide coated bolts and that doesn't happen. Also, I have a friend who is a master gunsmith in this county. Henry has been building guns over 40 years. He parkerizes them himself and actually uses brake cleaner as his last cleaning process after parkerizing. I thought that's what he said when he told me about those he did it a while back, but I called him tonight when this came up and he said yes, that's how he does it. He says if brake cleaner removes parkerizing, it wasn't done right. But of course, none of this is proof either, simply hearsay.
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What do you guys clean your engine parts with ? I've used lacquer thinner, brake fluid in the past, unfortunately my dad couldn't afford to buy a parts washer and the cleaning solution for it. I've never used gasoline or diesel fuel. I always let the parts air dry. The blocks and other parts were cleaned with Tide detergent, nowadays I use good old Dawn dish detergent and a power washer or go to the car wash. I don't have a parts washer because I don't work on enough engines to justify it.
I just can't see it removing the phosphate coating. I'm thinking it was more dirt or grease or oil and whatnot left over from machining the rings. I'd be really surprised if it was removing the phosphate.
skrews
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At home I use dishwashing detergent on the block and dry with compressed air. The rest of the parts I run through my HarborFreight solvent tank and rinse with water and dry with compressed air. Small parts I hose down with brake cleaner.
I like the dishwashing detergent idea. Dawn gets it done.
Have you had good luck with your HarborFreight solvent tank, does it have some sort of pump for the solvent?
got an old dishwasher out in the shop and 2 solvent tanks.
skrews
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It hasn't gone toes up yet but I'm sure it will. You can get replacement pumps for them pretty cheap. I use the solvent from Tractor Supply in it.
i use a proprietary solution of the blood of my enemies and the tears of chevy guys.
tears from the ford guys are too salty, and the flash rust pops off too quick.
These days You better check your Toilet-Paper before you use it.
I file-fit all my rings. Have to be sure to also use an emery stone when you file-fit to make sure there are no bugaboos where you filed the ends.
340six
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I swapped out the TP for #80 grit one time. I guess I will hear about it forever now. Complain, Complain I really thought it was a great idea and would work faster / better
It would really be funny were it not true.
4spdragtop
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I use a **** mitt as they are reusable. But these look intriguing. 
Shittens | Disposable mitten-shaped moist wipes!
Shittens | Disposable mitten-shaped moist wipes!
Certainly will result in a cleaner job. LOL
Boy oh boy, this thread really took a crappy turn.I use a **** mitt as they are reusable. But these look intriguing.
Shittens | Disposable mitten-shaped moist wipes!
4spdragtop
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Lmao, yep. I misread and saw "rings" 
Boy oh boy, this thread really took a crappy turn.
You work the night shift don't ya? How do you always find this crap?I use a **** mitt as they are reusable. But these look intriguing.
Shittens | Disposable mitten-shaped moist wipes!
It's a gift. lol
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