TKX vs T56
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See my pics back a page or so…. I have the TKX…It’s a bench seat car. Bench has to pretty much stay all the way back…it’s right up on it. But I have zero issues with it. I do need to modify my hump though cause the seat frame sits right on it even with the bench lifted some. Easy fix… I’m just being lazy.
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1WildRT
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Another possibility... And if you can weld you could certainly do this without buying anything...
HMS TKX 2" Forward Offset Shifter Stem - 12 O'clock Position - (P/N - HMS-2-FOS-12-TKX) – Hanlon Motorsports
You can also rotate the shift plate on top of the transmission. The thing that says Tremec on it with the 6 bolts. Mine is to the back…see my pics…. the pic you show has it to the front. If I had turned mine around it would have given more room away from the bench… but I assumed that the vendor had it where it belonged for my application. I will say that it being closer to the bench looks more stock and is much more comfortable on the arm and hand.
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Looking stock the rear position is probably the call... As far as hand position, bending the shift lever you can put it where you want....
Yeah I had to look up factory photos cause it looked too close to me….and odd….But it’s stock looking and I like it now. At first I thought the vendor didn’t put the shift plate in the right direction, but they did.
Bending the shift lever would be both extremely difficult without hydraulic help and would, I’m sure, ruin the chrome platting.
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Yeah, bending takes some brute force, but I have access to plenty... And sometimes the chrome gets damaged but usually it's okay... How many bent bumpers have you seen with good chrome....
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If your seat is all the way back, and the shifter is on the rear setting, then there's plenty of room for a bench.
Obviously the TKX shifter is center vs factory offset to driver.
Can one leave the hump in original factory 4 speed cars?
Pic shows Hurst 67 aftermarket a-body shifter. In 2nd the ball is right above the edge of the seat, can lay my arm on the seat.
It's perfect.
Obviously the TKX shifter is center vs factory offset to driver.
Can one leave the hump in original factory 4 speed cars?
Pic shows Hurst 67 aftermarket a-body shifter. In 2nd the ball is right above the edge of the seat, can lay my arm on the seat.
It's perfect.
The T56 is $3545+ now.
The entire swap kit, minus the cross member was 7700 shipped. I got the close ratio gear set as well since that’s what many people recommended.
340sFastback
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Yeah its spendy aint cheap and add another $500 for drive shaft. But wait till you drive it. Worth every dollar.
Yeah I’m excited, it will be a while before I get to drive it but once finished hopefully will be a really fun car to drive.
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When I was doing the conversion on my Red Challenger my GF was pissed off... She'd owned/driven nothing but manual transmission vehicles from the time she got her license till we bought her her first new car in 2001...
She had laid claim to the Red Challenger, insisted the Green one was mine & the Red one was hers... She was tired of shifting & said if I put a manual in it she would never drive it.... Well, it spite of claiming it, she'd never driven it when it had the auto... Sooooo.... Anyway, now that it's done she loves it, Changed the personality of the car, made it more of a real muscle car... She sees how much I enjoy rowing the gears & how many people look and comment on it having that pistol grip poking up between the seats..... Yeah, one of the best modifications I've made... You are gonna love it... Just need to start saving for another one for your Vert....
She had laid claim to the Red Challenger, insisted the Green one was mine & the Red one was hers... She was tired of shifting & said if I put a manual in it she would never drive it.... Well, it spite of claiming it, she'd never driven it when it had the auto... Sooooo.... Anyway, now that it's done she loves it, Changed the personality of the car, made it more of a real muscle car... She sees how much I enjoy rowing the gears & how many people look and comment on it having that pistol grip poking up between the seats..... Yeah, one of the best modifications I've made... You are gonna love it... Just need to start saving for another one for your Vert....
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Pretty sure the shifter on a T56 is designed to be installed towards the front or towards the back.
Regardless, I know my shifter can't be flipped to the forward location.
Based on this picture, I would say that it can't be done with the ToddRon crossmember either.
Maybe the TKX can be flipped to make it work, but I doubt it would clear the crossmember any better.
That leaves people with no upper crossmember that might be able to employ flipping the shifter to make a bench seat fit. Not saying a bench seat can't be made to work, only that if there is an upper crossmember, I doubt the idea of flipping the shifter would work.
There is an access plate forward of the shifter that (I think) I have seen shifters built to use. That would make all kinds of room available for a bench.
Regardless, I know my shifter can't be flipped to the forward location.
Based on this picture, I would say that it can't be done with the ToddRon crossmember either.
Maybe the TKX can be flipped to make it work, but I doubt it would clear the crossmember any better.
That leaves people with no upper crossmember that might be able to employ flipping the shifter to make a bench seat fit. Not saying a bench seat can't be made to work, only that if there is an upper crossmember, I doubt the idea of flipping the shifter would work.
There is an access plate forward of the shifter that (I think) I have seen shifters built to use. That would make all kinds of room available for a bench.
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Can't be done with ToddRon cross member but it might be possible to modify the upper hoop to clear the shift handle.Pretty sure the shifter on a T56 is designed to be installed towards the front or towards the back.
Regardless, I know my shifter can't be flipped to the forward location.
Based on this picture, I would say that it can't be done with the ToddRon crossmember either.
Maybe the TKX can be flipped to make it work, but I doubt it would clear the crossmember any better.
That leaves people with no upper crossmember that might be able to employ flipping the shifter to make a bench seat fit. Not saying a bench seat can't be made to work, only that if there is an upper crossmember, I doubt the idea of flipping the shifter would work.
There is an access plate forward of the shifter that (I think) I have seen shifters built to use. That would make all kinds of room available for a bench.
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Forward mount shifter on a TKX
E body shifter location...
E body shifter location...
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I think it would be cool if they did an A-Body setup like the E-Body.
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Anyone know where this would come through the floor?I wonder how close this would be? GM A body....
Probably as close as it gets to a factory 4 speed.
The hole for the factory shifter is just behind the torsion bar crossmember.
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Post 68 shows cli55er's TKX install... Looks like the rearward shifter location might be best....
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Looks like it would be in factory 4 spd location. But upper cross member hoop would have to go around it somehow.
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I asked Silver Sport about an A Body specific shifter location. They said no they only do E Body specific....
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I would agree.
The stock shifter hole is in front of the seat 'hump' in the floor, and behind the torsion bar crossmember.
Right were cli55er's pic has it.
I was originally thinking this, as the GM offset shifter has it in the forward location, closer to the transmission mount on the trans.
If the one with the offset in the rear location is used it might be closer, possibly.
I guess I'll have to buy a trans and try it out, maybe next year, er ah, this year.
So when buying a .68 OD TKX for an a-body are yous guys getting the Ford or GM variant?
And why?
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Mine is a TKO but it's Ford format cause that's what Kiesler used way back in the day.... Silver Sport sells a bell housing that has the TKO/TKX pattern so you don't have to modify a original bell housing... And they too chose the Ford pattern, I'm guessing due to the input shaft length...
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