David Vizard / Uncle Tony...Small block Infos ?

[273]

I get that. But what I see with you......and AJ both is two people talking more numbers, theory, calculations, formulas and such.......book experience than anyone on here

Some people speak in the language of math and when they see it expressed that way it makes more sense to them , fair enough if it don't for you, but I'm not trying to help the people know more than me but people that know less than me, my perspective may help some, I usually see things from different angle which confuses some and others get it.

with ZERO real world experience to show for a thing that I've seen. Nothing. Not. One. Thing. That speaks pretty loudly to me. It wouldn't be so glaring if, 1) you'd not preach your positions so loudly or 2) you actually showed some PROOF of you applying them on a current project you're working on. Neither of you have and as far as AJ is concerned, he's out and out refused to. I don't even think he owns his precious Barracuda anymore, and quite frankly, I suspect his whole persona is total bullshit. It's not hard to see through. Anyone can find all of the numbers and formulas he spouts on the internet and yet, people think he's a genius.

I have my issues with AJ, I do agree with his basic premise, optimize for where you'll spend most of your time 0-60 mph .

You're following right along in his footsteps. So until I see some proof of anything you're both posers.

Fair enough, but the way I see it is if I'm wrong how I view performance (which is possible and I will adapt/change with new info) then it should be easy to explain how I'm wrong (just saying because I said so doesn't count) and there's quite a few smart people on here that also agree with me all the time, I'm not gonna change how I think unless I can see fault in it.

If you and others want to see me as a poser that's fine idc, and if only a few find my take useful, good enough for me.

I like to learn and idc care if I'm not doing it the approved way

 

[RustyRatRod]

Some people speak in the language of math and when they see it expressed that way it makes more sense to them , fair enough if it don't for you, but I'm not trying to help the people know more than me but people that know less than me, my perspective may help some, I usually see things from different angle which confuses some and others get it.

I have my issues with AJ, I do agree with his basic premise, optimize for where you'll spend most of your time 0-60 mph .

Fair enough, but the way I see it is if I'm wrong how I view performance (which is possible and I will adapt/change with new info) then it should be easy to explain how I'm wrong (just saying because I said so doesn't count) and there's quite a few smart people on here that also agree with me all the time, I'm not gonna change how I think unless I can see fault in it.

If you and others want to see me as a poser that's fine idc, and if only a few find my take useful, good enough for me.

I like to learn and idc care if I'm not doing it the approved way

You speaking from non experience......it'a almost danthemanish.

 

[crackedback]

When people say that a voodoo or xe268H is going to "over cam" a streeter 360 or even a 340... well... Experience with a good tune up says otherwise. Even low compression stuff, the low end off idle output is so close, you can't really differentiate it. Go back and look at the low compression test/build/dyno that the Utah/idaho guy (can't remember his name at the moment did) But it's too big. LMAO Filling the cylinder is a more critical component of the exercise. The Holdener video of that 360 van engine and bolt on parts. Isn't a lick of observable relevant delta at 2500 from the change in the 250H to the 268H. NOTHING! But there are many that will argue til the sun goes down, some war and peace level prose, that it will be so crippled by this or that it won't run.

Same as talk to a pro. Some in here have built and been involved in hundreds of engine test/builds and don't have a shingle to hang on a building. Is that knowledge and experience exempt from providing solid input because they current aren't working in a professional capacity... HELL NO.

Is Phony a pro? Would you take any suggestions he makes after watching that clown show serious? Knurling pistons, LMAO... no frame connectors OMG NO That abortive SB dyno detonation. The idiocy and hackery are too great to list.

 

[273]

How? By book articles, formulas, slide rules and theory? Those are things anyone has access to. I'm just trying to figure out what real experience you have is all. You've posted nothing that I've seen.

He said it purdy good. ^^^^^^

These are the only formula's I basically use, cfm = cid x rpm x ve% / 3456, hp = tq x rpm / 5252, rpm = mph x 336 x gear / tire, with those you can explain a lot of things but there the 3 basic formula's everyone knows, I mainly look at dyno data and generally come up with my own theory's/takes about what I see, which usually ends up in disagreement's.

 

[junkyardhero]

I mainly look at dyno data and generally come up with my own theory's/takes about what I see, which usually ends up in disagreement's.

do you know why?

this is a serious question.

 

[RustyRatRod]

These are the only formula's I basically use, cfm = cid x rpm x ve% / 3456, hp = tq x rpm / 5252, rpm = mph x 336 x gear / tire, with those you can explain a lot of things but there the 3 basic formula's everyone knows, I mainly look at dyno data and generally come up with my own theory's/takes about what I see, which usually ends up in disagreement's.

And I think primarily that's because no formula can ever be exact. There are too many variables. Best we can do is use formulas, theory and book knowledge as a guide and that's about it.

 

[273]

....and as Obama would say......."Let me be clear" LMAO. This ain't about givin you a hard time. You're one of my favorite people on here. I mean that. And I also believe you when you say you've built projects. But put up or shut up as they say. I just want you as "one of the crowd" as it may. You know, one of the guys......camaraderie and all that. I gave up on Aj a long time ago. lol

Fair enough, but even if I never work on another car ever again, I don't know what to tell ya buy ain't gonna stop me from doing what I've been doing on this site and if you think I'm a poser or whatever so be it, I'm not gonna start doing more projects to make some of you happy, which that generally never works, I feel no need to prove myself outside of my words.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Fair enough, but even if I never work on another car ever again, I don't know what to tell ya buy ain't gonna stop me from doing what I've been doing on this site and if you think I'm a poser or whatever so be it, I'm not gonna start doing more projects to make some of you happy, which that generally never works, I feel no need to prove myself outside of my words.

Well, all I can tell you there is, as of now, words are all you are. It costs nothing to take some pictures and or video and post them up. There has to be a reason if you don't and or won't do it. That's fine, too. I have a long ignore list. I don't mind growing it.

 

[273]

And I think primarily that's because no formula can ever be exact. There are too many variables. Best we can do is use formulas, theory and book knowledge as a guide and that's about it.

100% Never said they can do more.

 

[273]

Well, all I can tell you there is, as of now, words are all you are. It costs nothing to take some pictures and or video and post them up. There has to be a reason if you don't and or won't do it. That's fine, too. I have a long ignore list. I don't mind growing it.

I've posted my car, want me to get a news paper (date) and take a pic of my car

 

[273]

 

[273]

do you know why?

this is a serious question.

Do I know why I generally process info differently than most ? No

 

[273]

So since UTG has experience then he must be a wealth of knowledge ? Nick dyno's all day same ? DV ?

 

[junkyardhero]

Do I know why I generally process info differently than most ? No

as usual, totally missed the ask. but i suppose i could've expressed it more clearly.

I mainly look at dyno data and generally come up with my own theory's/takes about what I see, which usually ends up in disagreement's.

do you know why it generally ends up in disagreements?

 

[273]

as usual, totally missed the ask. but i suppose i could've expressed it more clearly.



do you know why it generally ends up in disagreements?

Cause some disagree ?

 

[crackedback]

So since UTG has experience then he must be a wealth of knowledge ? Nick dyno's all day same ? DV ?

And this is why you have a rep for being difficult. Got to have a counter argument for everything.
ex the BS 340 390hp stock head/xe268H mill when holdeners 360 with more inches and ported heads can't get there on the same dyno. Why couldn't that 340 make 390hp type stuff.
Back to the experience of building, being around and having seen probably 40 of these mills run both on a dyno and at the track over 25+ years, might give some insight into whether the information printed is correct or BS.
That is something YOU do not have.

If someone has knowledge and then displays blatant stupidity as 2 of the 3 you mention have over the last bit of time, phony for years and nick just recently, you might just discount the validity of the information. Nothing is concrete or definite.

 

[junkyardhero]

Cause some disagree ?

*pinches nose*

*sighs deeply*

no. think bigger. think process.

 

[MopaR&D]

When I'm looking for info on car and engine combos, a testimonial of someone saying "I ran XYZ specific combo and it performed this way, felt that way, ran XX.XX at the drag strip" etc is a lot more useful than somebody posting links to dyno runs, videos by content creators and copy-and-pastes from articles that anyone can find on their own. That stuff has a little bit of usefulness but without saying "this is what I did and what I got" it's just bench racing and hearsay at the end of the day.

Hopefully that puts what is trying to be argued into context.

 

[273]

*pinches nose*

*sighs deeply*

no. think bigger. think process.

Hystrics is that you ?

Make a point or don't lol

 

[fishmens67]

When and where it all started in 1979

 

[RustyRatRod]

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That's the first I've ever seen of it.

 

[RustyRatRod]

So since UTG has experience then he must be a wealth of knowledge ? Nick dyno's all day same ? DV ?

I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole any farther than to say each of the people you mentioned HAS experience. Each is right about a lot of what they post and say. Also, each is wrong about a lot, too. But then, we all can fall into that category. I bet if all of us had a camera following us around a lot, we'd all see some really stupid chit from each other.

 

[273]

When I'm looking for info on car and engine combos, a testimonial of someone saying "I ran XYZ specific combo and it performed this way, felt that way, ran XX.XX at the drag strip" etc is a lot more useful than somebody posting links to dyno runs, videos by content creators and copy-and-pastes from articles that anyone can find on their own. That stuff has a little bit of usefulness but without saying "this is what I did and what I got" it's just bench racing and hearsay at the end of the day.

Hopefully that puts what is trying to be argued into context.

Fair enough and some might not.

 

[fishmens67]

I bet if all of us had a camera following us around a lot,

Some don't play well in front of the camera, I had to wear a mask when I was doing movies. lol

 

[fishmens67]

Here's a question, how fast will 400hp at the crank propel a 3300# car in the 1/4 with everything being up to spec. hook and book.