David Vizard / Uncle Tony...Small block Infos ?

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I have a set of 68 318 floating rods...didnt know they were light...wanted to build either a LA or a nice 318 Magnum , always been told that i swap all the rotating of either an La/Magnum if i have the correct crank and harmonic balance

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Everyone has an opinion and an asshole. Discard the haters. Watch all the content, decide for yourself and do your own thing.
I believe the loose engine goes back to his top fuel days, he's hitting alot of nitrous.
Bottle rocket is one cool ride.
 
ValerianMagnum said:
Hi guys , yup ! As a younger gear head...i watch lots of videos , infos that i didnt have 10-15 years ago when i started in the hobby, i love watching Utg 's Bottle rocket and i discovered David Vizard with all the mission impossible thing : I just dont understand how bottle Rocket's 318 runs so well without oil pressure at idle = revs like a chainsaw and his" happy being that loose "...( that 318 looks very healthy and i was very surprised ) + are DV 's tips really working? For the who saw the 318 videos , grinding the 318 rods to lighten them , cut this, cut that, lighter Ls parts in the "M,I, 318" ...its just a lot of infos and mods . I really understand the basics and had a lot of small blocks during the last 2 decades ( always had same mods : Cam / springs / headers / intake etc...but this internal knowledges is confuses me and if its all true and honest , i would love to know more and learn this stuff . * I know lots of guys dont like Uncle Tony , but i enjoy learning about mopar small block mods / carb stuff etc, Having all these infos available and not secured in a Area 51 top secret room is very fun , in the 2000s as a young curious kid , All the old guys had the knowledge and it was very hard to learn the good stuff or very pricey + it was all top secret and nobody wanted to give their tips.
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Don't watch that crap.
 
ValerianMagnum said:
I have a set of 68 318 floating rods...didnt know they were light...wanted to build either a LA or a nice 318 Magnum , always been told that i swap all the rotating of either an La/Magnum if i have the correct crank and harmonic balance

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Also has the 9.2:1 cr pistons.


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ValerianMagnum said:
Seriously? Didnt know that, was suprised that the crank was cast and not forged
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Yes, '68 & '69 318s have the 9.2:1 cr pistons and the light free floating rods.

'68 & '69 factory rated at 230 horse power, and that's with the 2 bbl carb and intake.

Pop a 4 bbl on them and watch them wake up, even with the stock cam.


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George Jets said:
Always thought it was crazy putting all that labor, grinding and balancing to make 645 Rods "light rods".

DV doesn't know Mopars.

Could have easily located the '68, '69 factory free floating light rods to fit the bill. No grinding or rebalancing required.

They really are much lighter than the later 1974 645 rods.

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'68 318 ^^^ with the free floating light rods. Runs out like a champ.


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No argument on that running very well! If you cut about .100 off the decks to put those sealed power pistons at zero or positive deck you'll really bring that to life with some aftermarket heads.
 
273 said:
I don't know exactly which tricks your talking about, but in the 50-80/90's there wasn't much for aftermarket parts for average guy's especially heads, hp was hard to come by, and all those little things done to stock parts added up, do 10-20+ 3-10 hp mods adds up, but with the aftermarket now there's so much low hanging fruit out there.
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10-20 hp?
My 650 hp 440 is from the 80s engine performance book, yes I could add another 40 or 50 hp with aluminum heads but why.

And one more thing the Chinese I beams would still benefit from being polished is does add strength along with being shot penned.

The only thing new about building a performance engine today is that the internet has a ton of horsepower heroes that think they have the secrets. Well like it’s been said before it’s all out there and has been for years but now even if all you are capable of doing is sitting on your butt and watching YouTube you can pick up knowledge it’s just that it comes with BS also.
 
Oldiron440 said:
10-20 hp?
My 650 hp 440 is from the 80s engine performance book, yes I could add another 40 or 50 hp with aluminum heads but why.

And one more thing the Chinese I beams would still benefit from being polished is does add strength along with being shot penned.

The only thing new about building a performance engine today is that the internet has a ton of horsepower heroes that think they have the secrets. Well like it’s been said before it’s all out there and has been for years but now even if all you are capable of doing is sitting on your butt and watching YouTube you can pick up knowledge it’s just that it comes with BS also.
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Fair enough but I don't get what this has to do with what I said.
 
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273 said:
Fair enough but don't what this has to do with what I said.
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I had to reread this a couple times before I realized what you were saying and this is what I was reacting to in the first line of my post.
“do 10-20+ 3-10 hp mods adds up“
Sorry I didn’t get what you were saying at the time I read it but it is the way you build power even with the aftermarket.

I personally think every guy building there first performance engine should actually do all the performance
“Tricks” on a stock engine build with only an aftermarket cam and kit pistons, SS valves oversized if necessary, good timing chain set, intake, carb, ignition and headers or cast performance exhaust manifolds.
I think this would be the best way to understand how to make power and then have a decent driver that’s actually on the road instead of waiting to come up with the two grand plus for aluminum heads,
 
Oldiron440 said:
I had to reread this a couple times before I realized what you were saying and this is what I was reacting to in the first line of my post.
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My bad, I guess I didn't proof read my post enough, I leave out or put words in wrong order all the time plus spelling, put can instead of can't etc.. :)
Oldiron440 said:
“do 10-20+ 3-10 hp mods adds up“
Sorry I didn’t get what you were saying at the time I read it but it is the way you build power even with the aftermarket.

I personally think every guy building there first performance engine should actually do all the performance
“Tricks” on a stock engine build with only an aftermarket cam and kit pistons, SS valves oversized if necessary, good timing chain set, intake, carb, ignition and headers or cast performance exhaust manifolds.
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I don't think these are the type of tricks the OP was talking about, but I could be wrong.
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I think this would be the best way to understand how to make power and then have a decent driver that’s actually on the road instead of waiting to come up with the two grand plus for aluminum heads,
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I didn't mean just buy heads instead of normal hot rodding.

Mission Impossible was suppose to be modding all the stock 318 parts instead of any aftermarket performance parts, those type of tricks I assume the OP is talking about.

To me cam headers cr carb intake and even heads is low hanging fruit, Richard Holdener type ootb builds.
 
Nick seems to be taking a bit of heat lately. His videos are great if you like old school Muscle and more
likely to represent the way it used to be.
He doesn't usually push aftermarket products and his numbers are realistic. I like the videos.
 
I never have understood the lore of watching other people do something on a stupid video. I don't know why people don't just bite it off themselves, tear into it and learn it on their own. That way, you actually learn something FROM DOING IT YOURSELF. You don't have to worry about some other guy doing something his way that might not work for you. You learn from your own mistakes without having to include someone else's to slow you down even more. That's how we all had to do it growing up. We didn't have youtube. We had grab a wrench and learn. I think some of yall could benefit from that.
 
It nice to watch people do ****... to berate them and say you can do it better... lmao

But no, really.. after doing your own work and still being in the mode.. watching can be a way to unwind... for me at least.
 

I'm so glad my 5-decades of working with so many cars, and having so many extremely smart friends....has gotten me to the point I'm at.
The only video I've watched and remembered [I don't watch YT or TV car shows]...is the engine-masters, where they smashed a set of headers and it didn't make a difference in horsepower. That was entertaining. I find almost all car media, tedious. I'd rather pull weeds.
 
Yeah, 318 mission impossible was the question that was already answered by 1wildandcrazyguy and Tim @318willrun long before the UTG channel became a thing. Trying to do it again with a small BBD on a stock “iron anchor” intake, stock 318 exhaust manifolds, and pistons that are .100 deep in the hole is going to be a real stretch to make it 1hp/cubic inch. Maybe if you built it like a qualifying engine for NASCAR? You’d do better with a ‘67-‘69 318 as a starting point, but I think the original scene was to use a throw-away smog motor.
 
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MMissile said:
I'm so glad my 5-decades of working with so many cars, and having so many extremely smart friends....has gotten me to the point I'm at.
The only video I've watched and remembered [I don't watch YT or TV car shows]...is the engine-masters, where they smashed a set of headers and it didn't make a difference in horsepower. That was entertaining. I find almost all car media, tedious. I'd rather pull weeds.
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Hmmmmm……

Watch UT videos, or pull weeds…..

Tough call!

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I’m tired of watching car repair shows . I still watch Rocket Restoration, Rare Classic cars and history and Steve Dulcich but most of the others are SO slow ( Nicks Garage ) or they purposely do things half *** ( Frieberger) just to appeal to back yard monkeys. Sometimes to the point where it would have been easier and cheaper to do it right ! Dulcich just seems to be a great person and has a ton of knowledge. They made him the goofball on Engine Masters but you could tell he had way more knowledge then Frieberger.
 
Actually I have to amend my post .
I do watch repair videos on cars I am unfamiliar with. I watched several on replacing the water pump on my daughters Range Rover this morning. Thank god it didn’t have timing belt issues ! 16 hour job for the Rover techs ! Urghhh. My old brain would have trouble remembering where all the nuts and bolts went . Brits have the most comprehensive vids !
 
mbaird said:
Actually I have to amend my post .
I do watch repair videos on cars I am unfamiliar with. I watched several on replacing the water pump on my daughters Range Rover this morning. Thank god it didn’t have timing belt issues ! 16 hour job for the Rover techs ! Urghhh. My old brain would have trouble remembering where all the nuts and bolts went . Brits have the most comprehensive vids !
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Your daughter has a Range Rover? Sorry to hear that...
 
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